From nobody Mon Dec 14 09:47:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F49E3A13C1 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:47:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4BcQd7JNTjO9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD34D3A13C0 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A758B62416 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:47:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SKKOkuS4iPCZ for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 843DA622B9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:46:55 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:46:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:47:03 -0000 I got a reference for a draft from: https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257 It has a DOI, so I used:      and that works almost great, generating:    [KeyDerivation]               Dodis, Y., Gennaro, R., Håstad, J., Krawczyk, H., and T.               Rabin, "Randomness Extraction and Key Derivation Using the               CBC, Cascade and HMAC Modes", Advances in Cryptology -               CRYPTO 2004 pp. 494-510, DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30,               2004, . But I would like to include the iacr.org URL in the reference as well. How might I slip that in?  It would probably be easier for readers to get the paper from iacr than from DOI that may require a login. Or is this just a case of guiding the lily? thanks From nobody Mon Dec 14 09:52:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207CF3A1424 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:52:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QIvsFzhXPjHX for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8387F3A1422 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.120] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cvpqs0MFdzyPY; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:52:09 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:52:08 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629661128.570214-adb2c8eea0b7b9bc63de2ec3187f1352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> References: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:52:14 -0000 On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > I got a reference for a draft from: >=20 > https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=3D1257 >=20 > It has a DOI, so I used: >=20 >=20 > This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document is = processed (if not cached locally). But you don=E2=80=99t need that=E2=80=A6 Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart=E2=80=99s content (e.g., adding = your own target), and paste it where the =20 > and that works almost great, generating: >=20 > [KeyDerivation] > Dodis, Y., Gennaro, R., H=C3=A5stad, J., Krawczyk, H., = and T. > Rabin, "Randomness Extraction and Key Derivation Using = the > CBC, Cascade and HMAC Modes", Advances in Cryptology - > CRYPTO 2004 pp. 494-510, DOI = 10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30, > 2004, . >=20 > But I would like to include the iacr.org URL in the reference as well. >=20 > How might I slip that in? It would probably be easier for readers to = get the paper from iacr than from DOI that may require a login. >=20 > Or is this just a case of guiding the lily? >=20 > thanks >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Mon Dec 14 10:18:34 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25F63A0A3D for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:18:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MfsK0-ZOBOiy for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE2493A0A3E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41462416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:18:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TB1fNUZrmqE2; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C726622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:18:14 -0500 (EST) To: Carsten Bormann Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" References: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <09352473-c6d2-b4a5-e828-54312f3ba166@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:18:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:18:33 -0000 On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> I got a reference for a draft from: >> >> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257 >> >> It has a DOI, so I used: >> >> >> > This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document is processed (if not cached locally). > > But you don’t need that… > > Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart’s content (e.g., adding your own target), and paste it where the > Grüße, Carsten > > > >> and that works almost great, generating: >> >> [KeyDerivation] >> Dodis, Y., Gennaro, R., Håstad, J., Krawczyk, H., and T. >> Rabin, "Randomness Extraction and Key Derivation Using the >> CBC, Cascade and HMAC Modes", Advances in Cryptology - >> CRYPTO 2004 pp. 494-510, DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30, >> 2004, . >> >> But I would like to include the iacr.org URL in the reference as well. >> >> How might I slip that in? It would probably be easier for readers to get the paper from iacr than from DOI that may require a login. >> >> Or is this just a case of guiding the lily? >> >> thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xml2rfc mailing list >> xml2rfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Mon Dec 14 10:27:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F9D3A1246 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:27:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZjGx1ZpWMDA0 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 420373A1244 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:27:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1607970436; bh=YSALLgCyiGDS4LXkrugrjVcH1SEx/fhQW3Y9hIHJdYM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=JyF3lPTk9BvCLjgqGHy7dOFsfcDWgKc8HQMQevvmG1VqmE4kT5qYkVzxlFzN94tm2 gYp57+7qIgWcP27liHoZe4KUU7q7uO/u0H//dFHAB0b7Lnow/XsNjkJ7GcrJp9EI70 pnJklXOSTTVw2/ZD2JqJnFn0f2HRac8uTAT9jxHk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.151.207]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MrQJ5-1kHzue3bDL-00oVzx for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:11 +0100 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> <09352473-c6d2-b4a5-e828-54312f3ba166@htt-consult.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:22:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <09352473-c6d2-b4a5-e828-54312f3ba166@htt-consult.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ObuIT/dpjfjhMAzwsqiETwiVUkhfP36nvtROc1K+B7DqRWE3b3X TCE/9HGuXAGXEOamSHLH4RbdRHsIVLEAqqSXJcQvE2wTKUQYcA0WdyI/GIuCg9DP9ixuQyG UiAu0tjAnPVww2lxRFbEfuDrd9cxJ3xrGdS+p0g9RjyNzYRo5iuIEBn3elytIglh8ttntkx pUUStAR5aZtz5L4Nv7KzA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:zfuYuyb/LqA=:In5yZhH6asc+ogqYC8S94B 8/FKVDrXR7cc03y5ljY+s/cb5Y3O8Tpt17oHhy+1YgRwNYu5nY4XqdgUFpG1zjycaNr0IwOGC BbW5qq4O9bMP0XnUHi/TEB8u7VAJa7B8ey6UBx/AC/yfu3gy5L9brjXcujGasddKYvbQBSXGa Y9D8PQLoHPAaM4B834km5yTkq0Df61d8JUTVGQ2tYO5utLPZgFwG6cESSpDsfYxiEZ3sMIQG6 Ko+3iO87BD4RU1tnlwr4emNap72jeEXw4bT0qgiaIcWcieOIob5Bd38ncq91Wue3uHGBU4F/G dR5+6vMZA6SD/RLdYssyuunScZg9EBp5ES+Vz9LJF2Gf6KbFt+ASFuqj6OnkB2a7Q1WGhWyix Q7fRcMCxPuzG57j5q7PGPy7hhXKfhNBStgrjjksMK0n4dBbinNdw4T+1MeLifOG9QisTFsf+n 3fNyy9zURLO0kDh/S/LAoF5Ah/cEC+5xRr9PHYYPMmU8M5szxi25IwmDSqXJ1Ta4Kydv4ZPeM Ifac30KXlRkIZyII1hCt0XVRviSaxucAdp1N0Fhk1P3vWHyiVvhfpYX7O70Ed2nLkPjrHXXPJ I4Sn/EDlg9bmbf+PnVkaDrlPxHv7c3J5fmuYvUaPQUx3p+nalmQe1W+7Uau8ryOB8UuVCp/Ex ChNXAf1+GBDJGJ4ET0q/WULqTDf7fHrwKWAssBrPizi7Sgv7ymHs37HXdbo8hWVYezPH/hhMP TcgvjKWDGMOQNMvCV+UJwfttAXdYBJwsRPgraWq3c50yyFTCk6OAI2oq4NA7uZ0nbnODRSt3T cHfgEPnh1AAtYVPis7woHKrckwUJ7ht4M8hcNqyE5gU4VeFpmAJlUe4fRBT5IjasS03fmGb5d jTECWVjyopLbaK9zOpxw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:27:20 -0000 Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > > > On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> I got a reference for a draft from: >>> >>> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=3D1257 >>> >>> It has a DOI, so I used: >>> >>> >>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 >> include=3D"https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference= .DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=3DKeyDerivation"?> >>> >> This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document is >> processed (if not cached locally). >> >> But you don=E2=80=99t need that=E2=80=A6 >> >> Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart=E2=80=99s content (e.g., adding= your >> own target), and paste it where the > v3xml anyway=E2=80=A6). > > > What are PIs? > ... "Processing Instructions". (). Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Dec 14 10:44:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59FB3A13BE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:44:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OFiku7VsVXjI for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1ADD23A13DF for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0022C62416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:44:36 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uAEd21D5PqLj; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A002622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:44:28 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> <09352473-c6d2-b4a5-e828-54312f3ba166@htt-consult.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:44:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 18:44:53 -0000 On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> >> >> On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>> I got a reference for a draft from: >>>> >>>> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257 >>>> >>>> It has a DOI, so I used: >>>> >>>> >>>>       >>> include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?> >>>> >>>> >>> This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document is >>> processed (if not cached locally). >>> >>> But you don’t need that… >>> >>> Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart’s content (e.g., adding your >>> own target), and paste it where the >> v3xml anyway…). >> >> >> What are PIs? >> ... > > "Processing Instructions". > (). A family member would call that a helicopter answer. How does this apply to the include I am using that I got from https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ ?? > > Best regards, Julian > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Mon Dec 14 10:52:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273CD3A14B4 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOxtahfzo4Sm for ; 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That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2rfc in v3 mode, as Carsten said. The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as the content, paste it into the document, and edit is as you wish. Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Dec 14 11:01:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BE63A156E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0nyJrgN2YR66 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C5ED3A1428 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904B562416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:01:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id xfhxVMn4sPWI; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61B84622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:01:09 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <231d5282-1185-f732-bf89-10e350627d47@htt-consult.com> <9CA2BB8C-628F-4494-A540-21D415932C66@tzi.org> <09352473-c6d2-b4a5-e828-54312f3ba166@htt-consult.com> <782da242-29e5-ef9c-f981-f863755465da@gmx.de> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:01:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <782da242-29e5-ef9c-f981-f863755465da@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:01:19 -0000 On 12/14/20 1:51 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 14.12.2020 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> >> >> On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>>>> On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I got a reference for a draft from: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257 >>>>>> >>>>>> It has a DOI, so I used: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>       >>>>> include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the >>>>> document is >>>>> processed (if not cached locally). >>>>> >>>>> But you don’t need that… >>>>> >>>>> Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart’s content (e.g., adding your >>>>> own target), and paste it where the >>>> v3xml anyway…). >>>> >>>> >>>> What are PIs? >>>> ... >>> >>> "Processing Instructions". >>> (). >> >> A family member would call that a helicopter answer. >> >> How does this apply to the include I am using that I got from >> https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ >> >> ?? > > That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2rfc in v3 mode, as Carsten > said. ??  I am using the --v3 switch in the xml2rfc python3 script and it works.  Are the includes like     PI?  Or only the part starting with ?anchor in      I am using For changing the displayed reference for IDs, but it does not seem to work for these DOI refs (or at least when I tried it some months ago on some NIST SP800 references). thanks > > The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as the content, paste it > into the document, and edit is as you wish. > > Best regards, Julian > > From nobody Mon Dec 14 11:05:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E3E3A15D0 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:05:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.005 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.005 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hB1PbP6gHA8s for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD36D3A15CC for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.122] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CvrST4qnyzyXf; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:05:29 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4778C63C-6790-4103-B8EE-575056F8D35F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:05:28 +0100 Cc: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org Message-Id: References: To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:05:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4778C63C-6790-4103-B8EE-575056F8D35F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably you are already giving a different anchor, so the displayref does n= ot catch.=20 Sent from mobile, sorry for terse > On 14. Dec 2020, at 20:01, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> On 12/14/20 1:51 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> Am 14.12.2020 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>>> Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>>>>> On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz wrote= : >>>>>>> I got a reference for a draft from: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=3D1257 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> It has a DOI, so I used: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> >>>>>> include=3D"https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/referen= ce.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=3DKeyDerivation"?>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>> This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document i= s >>>>>> processed (if not cached locally). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> But you don=E2=80=99t need that=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart=E2=80=99s content (e.g., addi= ng your >>>>>> own target), and paste it where the >>>>> v3xml anyway=E2=80=A6). >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> What are PIs? >>>>> ... >>>>=20 >>>> "Processing Instructions". >>>> (). >>>=20 >>> A family member would call that a helicopter answer. >>>=20 >>> How does this apply to the include I am using that I got from >>> https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ >>>=20 >>> ?? >>=20 >> That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2rfc in v3 mode, as Carsten >> said. >=20 > ?? I am using the --v3 switch in the xml2rfc python3 script and it works.= Are the includes like >=20 > >=20 > PI? Or only the part starting with ?anchor in >=20 > >=20 >=20 > I am using >=20 > >=20 > For changing the displayed reference for IDs, but it does not seem to work= for these DOI refs (or at least when I tried it some months ago on some NIS= T SP800 references). >=20 > thanks >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as the content, paste it >> into the document, and edit is as you wish. >>=20 >> Best regards, Julian >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc --Apple-Mail-4778C63C-6790-4103-B8EE-575056F8D35F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably you are already giving a different= anchor, so the displayref does not catch. 

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On 14. Dec 2020, at 20:0= 1, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:

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On 12/14/20 1:51 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
Am 14.12.2020 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Moskowit= z:


On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Res= chke wrote:
Am 14.12.2020 um 19:= 18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:

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On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.c= om> wrote:
=
I got a reference for a draft from:
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??

That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2r= fc in v3 mode, as Carsten
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thanks

=

The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as= the content, paste it
into the document, and edit is as you wish.

<= span>Best regards, Julian
<= span>


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= = --Apple-Mail-4778C63C-6790-4103-B8EE-575056F8D35F-- From nobody Mon Dec 14 11:25:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C053A1799 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:25:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L6DqEBS1G8PO for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B28E3A1797 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E04C62416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:25:17 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Bw40PTo20qXA; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E93B622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:25:07 -0500 (EST) To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:24:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------67996E4517DC4B1332B3E3F0" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help on DOI reference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:25:23 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------67996E4517DC4B1332B3E3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/14/20 2:05 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Probably you are already giving a different anchor, so the displayref > does not catch. > > Sent from mobile, sorry for terse grumble....  After some poking around, followed your earlier comment to wget the include and look at the anchor, as OH!      for      Not obvious.  But I got there... Now to clean up the other PI references that work, but maybe one day may not... thanks Carsten and Julian > >> On 14. Dec 2020, at 20:01, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >>  >> >> On 12/14/20 1:51 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> Am 14.12.2020 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>>>> Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>>>>>> On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I got a reference for a draft from: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It has a DOI, so I used: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>> include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the >>>>>>> document is >>>>>>> processed (if not cached locally). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you don’t need that… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart’s content (e.g., adding your >>>>>>> own target), and paste it where the >>>>>> v3xml anyway…). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What are PIs? >>>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Processing Instructions". >>>>> (). >>>> >>>> A family member would call that a helicopter answer. >>>> >>>> How does this apply to the include I am using that I got from >>>> https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ >>>> >>>> ?? >>> >>> That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2rfc in v3 mode, as Carsten >>> said. >> >> ??  I am using the --v3 switch in the xml2rfc python3 script and it >> works.  Are the includes like >> >>     > href="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/reference.I-D.ietf-hip-dex.xml"/> >> >> PI?  Or only the part starting with ?anchor in >> >>      > include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?> >> >> >> I am using >> >> >> >> For changing the displayed reference for IDs, but it does not seem to >> work for these DOI refs (or at least when I tried it some months ago >> on some NIST SP800 references). >> >> thanks >> >> >>> >>> The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as the content, paste it >>> into the document, and edit is as you wish. >>> >>> Best regards, Julian >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> xml2rfc mailing list >> xml2rfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc --------------67996E4517DC4B1332B3E3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 12/14/20 2:05 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
Probably you are already giving a different anchor, so the displayref does not catch. 

Sent from mobile, sorry for terse

grumble....  After some poking around, followed your earlier comment to wget the include and look at the anchor, as OH!

     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-56C" to="NIST.SP.800-56C"/>

for

     <?rfc include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.6028/NIST.SP.800-56C.xml"?>

Not obvious.  But I got there...

Now to clean up the other PI references that work, but maybe one day may not...

thanks Carsten and Julian



On 14. Dec 2020, at 20:01, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:



On 12/14/20 1:51 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
Am 14.12.2020 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:


On 12/14/20 1:22 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:
Am 14.12.2020 um 19:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:


On 12/14/20 12:52 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
On 2020-12-14, at 18:46, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> wrote:
I got a reference for a draft from:

https://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=1257

It has a DOI, so I used:


      <?rfc
include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?>


This means the bibxml for the DOI is fetched each time the document is
processed (if not cached locally).

But you don’t need that…

Wget/curl the above, edit to your heart’s content (e.g., adding your
own target), and paste it where the <?rfc was.  (PIs are no longer
v3xml anyway…).


What are PIs?
...

"Processing Instructions".
(<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processing_Instruction>).

A family member would call that a helicopter answer.

How does this apply to the include I am using that I got from
https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/

??

That *is* a PI, so it would not work with xml2rfc in v3 mode, as Carsten
said.

??  I am using the --v3 switch in the xml2rfc python3 script and it works.  Are the includes like

    <xi:include href="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/reference.I-D.ietf-hip-dex.xml"/>

PI?  Or only the part starting with ?anchor in

     <?rfc include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml?anchor=KeyDerivation"?>


I am using

<displayreference target="I-D.moskowitz-orchid-cshake" to="new-orchid"/>

For changing the displayed reference for IDs, but it does not seem to work for these DOI refs (or at least when I tried it some months ago on some NIST SP800 references).

thanks



The easiest thing to do is to wget/curl/save as the content, paste it
into the document, and edit is as you wish.

Best regards, Julian



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--------------67996E4517DC4B1332B3E3F0-- From nobody Mon Dec 14 13:38:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E3C3A142B for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.845 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.845 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LONGWORDS=1.844, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P3_ZB72J1a29 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC4C63A142A for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F0662416 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:38:43 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8dhYiqLdUHwc for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84841622B9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:38:34 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:38:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5F5AD5DFEE3C9084277E9A61" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] errors on xml submission with displayreference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:38:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5F5AD5DFEE3C9084277E9A61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just tried submitting my ietf-hip-dex draft and got xml errors I did not get with my local xml2rfc script. What I am seeing is: One or more XML validation errors occurred when processing the XML file: draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3445: Element back content does not follow the DTD, expecting (references* , section*), got (displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference references references section section ) draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference I can upload the whole 150KB xml, but back starts with:                                                            hmmmm, This is an old draft written for v2 and although I have added this v3 stuff, I never ran --v2v3 on it. Help? --------------5F5AD5DFEE3C9084277E9A61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just tried submitting my ietf-hip-dex draft and got xml errors I did not get with my local xml2rfc script.

What I am seeing is:

One or more XML validation errors occurred when processing the XML file:
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3445: Element back content does not follow the DTD, expecting (references* , section*), got (displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference references references section section )
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference

I can upload the whole 150KB xml, but back starts with:

 <back>
     <displayreference target="I-D.ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis" to="hip-rfc4423-bis"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_IEEESTD.2016.7786995" to="IEEE.802-11.2016"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-38B" to="NIST.SP.800-38B"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-56C" to="NIST.SP.800-56C"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-108" to="NIST.SP.800-108"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1007_978-3-540-28628-8_30" to="KeyDerivation"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_TIT.1976.1055638" to="DH76"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_IPSN.2008.47" to="LN08"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_ICNP.2013.6733571" to="HWZ13"/>

<references title="References">
   <references title="Normative References">

hmmmm,

This is an old draft written for v2 and although I have added this v3 stuff, I never ran --v2v3 on it.

Help?

--------------5F5AD5DFEE3C9084277E9A61-- From nobody Mon Dec 14 16:44:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11F3A12CE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:44:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.846 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.846 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LONGWORDS=1.844, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Xj_t4Dh5O7a for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A076D3A12CD for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D73462416 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:44:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Ev3Ge92sSg9I for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F253622B9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:44:30 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Moskowitz To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" References: Message-ID: <0c993176-e4d2-c55f-3d71-10f8b37029cb@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:44:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3BFA2B7F6219079C22848654" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Fixed - Re: errors on xml submission with displayreference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:44:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3BFA2B7F6219079C22848654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I ran --v2v3 on the source xml, uploaded again and this time no errors.  So the conversion added something needed to allow use of displyareference that worked with the local xml2rfc, but not with the on used by submit. On 12/14/20 4:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just tried submitting my ietf-hip-dex draft and got xml errors I did > not get with my local xml2rfc script. > > What I am seeing is: > > One or more XML validation errors occurred when processing the XML file: > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3445: Element back content does not > follow the DTD, expecting (references* , section*), got > (displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference > displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference > displayreference references references section section ) > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for element > displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute target > of element displayreference > draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute to of > element displayreference > > I can upload the whole 150KB xml, but back starts with: > >   >       to="hip-rfc4423-bis"/> >       to="IEEE.802-11.2016"/> >       to="NIST.SP.800-38B"/> >       to="NIST.SP.800-56C"/> >       to="NIST.SP.800-108"/> >       to="KeyDerivation"/> >       >       >       > > >    > > hmmmm, > > This is an old draft written for v2 and although I have added this v3 > stuff, I never ran --v2v3 on it. > > Help? > > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc --------------3BFA2B7F6219079C22848654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I ran --v2v3 on the source xml, uploaded again and this time no errors.  So the conversion added something needed to allow use of displyareference that worked with the local xml2rfc, but not with the on used by submit.



On 12/14/20 4:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I just tried submitting my ietf-hip-dex draft and got xml errors I did not get with my local xml2rfc script.

What I am seeing is:

One or more XML validation errors occurred when processing the XML file:
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3445: Element back content does not follow the DTD, expecting (references* , section*), got (displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference displayreference references references section section )
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3446: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3447: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3448: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3449: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3450: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3451: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3452: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3453: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute target of element displayreference
draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml: Line 3454: No declaration for attribute to of element displayreference

I can upload the whole 150KB xml, but back starts with:

 <back>
     <displayreference target="I-D.ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis" to="hip-rfc4423-bis"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_IEEESTD.2016.7786995" to="IEEE.802-11.2016"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-38B" to="NIST.SP.800-38B"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-56C" to="NIST.SP.800-56C"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.6028_NIST.SP.800-108" to="NIST.SP.800-108"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1007_978-3-540-28628-8_30" to="KeyDerivation"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_TIT.1976.1055638" to="DH76"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_IPSN.2008.47" to="LN08"/>
     <displayreference target="DOI_10.1109_ICNP.2013.6733571" to="HWZ13"/>

<references title="References">
   <references title="Normative References">

hmmmm,

This is an old draft written for v2 and although I have added this v3 stuff, I never ran --v2v3 on it.

Help?


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Failed decoding the uploaded file: "'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 135051: ordinal not in range(128)"

How do I find what character is the problem?  Could it be:

R., Håstad


This is in a reference produced via a DOI reference.


--------------C97D3205B65AA21FD6BB730F-- From nobody Mon Dec 14 16:53:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063E43A0940; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:53:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qqJyNACL6Qk1; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2D743A09B5; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cw0B272jdzyRd; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:53:30 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <0c993176-e4d2-c55f-3d71-10f8b37029cb@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:53:30 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629686410.5917929-9784a344a0b11f2d50048a826ebdb486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0c993176-e4d2-c55f-3d71-10f8b37029cb@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Fixed - Re: errors on xml submission with displayreference X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:53:36 -0000 On 2020-12-15, at 01:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > I ran --v2v3 on the source xml, uploaded again and this time no = errors. So the conversion added something needed to allow use of = displyareference that worked with the local xml2rfc, but not with the on = used by submit. Yes: The X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0013A0DBE; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WKghXWopbPNe; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CDE23A09B5; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 16:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cw0Cn4FY0zyRg; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:55:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 01:55:01 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629686501.154549-2eaec1120b67d0dd7699e4eb08c89454 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> References: To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:55:05 -0000 On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: Don=E2=80=99t send the txt file with a v3 source. (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes = problems.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Dec 14 19:47:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B723A0365 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:47:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sl3yrHAzdAnd for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40B3F3A0332 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8236262416 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:47:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FYhugksZ1Zpi for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84720622B9 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:47:40 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <3925695c-333d-9e8e-fee1-db3479f6d117@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:47:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Strange behavior with a DOI reference include X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:47:49 -0000 this include:      worked when my xml was ver 2 and building with xml2rfc --v3 then I did the --v2v3 and the script replaced all my includes with some actual xml.  For this one, it is:                               IEEE Standard for Information technology--Telecommunications and information exchange between systems Local and metropolitan area networks--Specific requirements - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications                                                   n.d.                                       Which works. But if I replace this with the include I get the following errors: $ xml2rfc --v3 draft-ietf-hip-dex.xml Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/home/rgm/.local/bin/xml2rfc", line 11, in     load_entry_point('xml2rfc==3.5.0', 'console_scripts', 'xml2rfc')()   File "/home/rgm/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/xml2rfc/run.py", line 736, in main     xmlrfc.tree = prep.prep()   File "/home/rgm/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/preptool.py", line 208, in prep     tree = self.dispatch(self.selectors)   File "/home/rgm/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 1905, in dispatch     func(e, e.getparent())   File "/home/rgm/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/preptool.py", line 411, in check_attribute_values     if i and not i.isdigit() and not i==self.get_attribute_defaults(c.tag)[a]: KeyError: 'year' When I do a wget on this DOI I get:       IEEE Standard for Information technology—Telecommunications and information exchange between systems Local and metropolitan area networks—Specific requirements - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) Specifications                         I have a LOT of other DOIs, but this is the only IEEE one.  Here are some of my other DOIs:                               Why is the one failing, but the others work? From nobody Mon Dec 14 19:59:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45763A03FA; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:59:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VIkEjFMEJRsE; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88E493A03F4; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B7362416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:59:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nzKo80bHLOeC; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2986622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:59:04 -0500 (EST) To: Carsten Bormann Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:58:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:59:18 -0000 On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: > Don’t send the txt file with a v3 source. > > (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes problems.) > I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the problem was the author's name in the reference. locally I get R., Håstad the submit generates: R., HÃ¥stad Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just for this one error? From nobody Mon Dec 14 20:04:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2903A040B for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:04:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MwmReFUVq7rb for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBD23A0408 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:04:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608005053; bh=fu79xJtRDgCp8qms6P23kwOIjIt3AmCWe38CB6oDRYE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Y3djc68/iJfAP9nr4aWeeid5IHnkgL7IIz2BHao1XkdAX9GI5XF04bOZ2kn500YdL Xe36oPZmluIkb07YiMe6pwEnAFjzv7FtxSDBQNS7f2sW2B/IrtgCOgdKH9h8hIabeT W63/gkLZcz6E7L3T4oPTKyNID0qSnwtrC82Y+W0Q= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.155.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MdNcG-1kFxnh1cjA-00ZOde for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 05:04:13 +0100 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 05:04:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:dhjKn9VPIawVcZLYJVTd14ANddhhDd9ofbQ8OsZiN/CDG/Zy+z3 rYl5K64VZN1H200g+dRMAYOPS6fPiVA2GmZFHIIMklM9bpoOas9fWJ3Ea5ACRGNFwMlSaTQ n6ff0Qs8JGhD+GXCjzcE6Fk94UKMMYlq+az2kJulLtmJrWCTmf+Om1YRIAvaV6DBDJ7SLFC h9hC3i8GCASnMSlrzY61A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:n+kzEyAfGlA=:iMT1EOBhZ1kE+sxEHzOTQr 9qFxAYg+yTU3wIXrazGgAKYHLfv/RIVsJwYZuMCimcYBCrj9is5+XfmQ52uE2EwR5WDl5W1Hc kGN0Yx7mcbYWBqir3ba21OkclfI5k1ZZQvgcED0IjqpGBHSvLFcQKMw3yDk6THNKOg8CqxxXT FmhbLXRjcKZiu46AzsmRLrMDbFsEQzGfReeIvDUJzhpUIrJ/70ICuaEvtAlI3MWuHQyTYViUx sTys+x90rc41wtYWonJCbhrXiHnKs7NKOlf6oS/p/HjIxW2zg478r28IhOxQpT5+lvVfBj0wo Zj38O3yDmHSyDGKk5xtvleVLwcq2cAv+ddlTkSY6g4mKluNrrHFGBWEFXNTmeka8wH4MhuH5t nFv2M5VjtP2yHTTDPU4jbz5WsupkB6vfl6vQ73c8ElwEIykujXzn/7teqaAjs369KmUIhFpi9 NJ4k7finkFbKnxyjCa62SYXFE+IZMNtFIg0o+A0JNksauNU5LUJs6WaepneFIrLsmPX0Qhq76 dTYR8f9ZucMYg7hY2Tb32LyjVklMukzTOXqoUnPUtnugtsgh8+dkW4NBmqVqs4DQ7pm7dLYUw USglQuahefc3TFGTJPRi2uz05oV9uqE4DKtGhVYdC5Niufk1qgDe4UYtkNKYvgfrnZHlnngNc Wg9BAQlxypR4pz+4dlq3SaN1nIgkaJmJnxpyynpJxRS/Kmd1nfpy8jbYGWCT3R9r6kCpTuzLs QMc23rSgww8FTg1h4ZBe9/F7hbVYGjVJ90ixMaGaNoXKpkBUvr9VDriWpEmHazOg2ND18k0vp INtXrw55bYbcyjqy45oGRfTKr4BNKFKAsyuen5f3l/kMU+G5hNbOwWAYQp8s5svq+OdSi1UKR 6vFstauFdRegfdy+q9Rw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:04:19 -0000 Am 15.12.2020 um 04:58 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > > > On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: >> Don=E2=80=99t send the txt file with a v3 source. >> >> (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes >> problems.) >> > > > I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the problem > was the author's name in the reference. > > locally I get > R., H=C3=A5stad > > the submit generates: > > R., H=C3=83=C2=A5stad > > Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just > for this one error? You have a mismatch between the declared (or implicit) character encoding of the XML, and the actual data you sent. I recommend running the file through a local XML parser (such as a browser) before submitting. Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Dec 14 20:19:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E573A0AFD for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:19:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qR-xslemC-KJ for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A381F3A0AA1 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9C62416; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:19:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZqZoldZsOz5P; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24350622B9; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:18:53 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:18:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:19:15 -0000 On 12/14/20 11:04 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 15.12.2020 um 04:58 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> >> >> On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: >>> Don’t send the txt file with a v3 source. >>> >>> (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes >>> problems.) >>> >> >> >> I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the problem >> was the author's name in the reference. >> >> locally I get >> R., Håstad >> >> the submit generates: >> >> R., HÃ¥stad >> >> Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just >> for this one error? > > You have a mismatch between the declared (or implicit) character > encoding of the XML, and the actual data you sent. > > I recommend running the file through a local XML parser (such as a > browser) before submitting. The xml comes via an include:      It should not be that this works locally, but not with the submission tool. 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>> >> You have a mismatch between the declared (or implicit) character >> encoding of the XML, and the actual data you sent. >> >> I recommend running the file through a local XML parser (such as a >> browser) before submitting. > > The xml comes via an include: > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 include=3D"https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.D= OI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml"?> > > > > It should not be that this works locally, but not with the submission to= ol. The include looks fine to me. I'll repeat what I keep saying when problems with included references (network, encoding, whatnot) come up: don't include, just download and paste in. That way, the XML is under your control and self-contained. Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Dec 14 21:03:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAF43A08FA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:03:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uI_n_ynsxuHP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7FF3A08F8 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 21:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F306062416; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:03:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dj8mYU0iSAuV; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12417622B9; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:03:18 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <6b9a64d2-07c2-8c75-cdf3-b554e66ed0cd@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:03:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 05:03:32 -0000 On 12/14/20 11:26 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 15.12.2020 um 05:18 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> >> >> On 12/14/20 11:04 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> Am 15.12.2020 um 04:58 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>>>> On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: >>>>> Don’t send the txt file with a v3 source. >>>>> >>>>> (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes >>>>> problems.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the >>>> problem >>>> was the author's name in the reference. >>>> >>>> locally I get >>>> R., Håstad >>>> >>>> the submit generates: >>>> >>>> R., HÃ¥stad >>>> >>>> Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just >>>> for this one error? >>> >>> You have a mismatch between the declared (or implicit) character >>> encoding of the XML, and the actual data you sent. >>> >>> I recommend running the file through a local XML parser (such as a >>> browser) before submitting. >> >> The xml comes via an include: >> >>       > include="https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1007/978-3-540-28628-8_30.xml"?> >> >> >> >> >> It should not be that this works locally, but not with the submission >> tool. > > The include looks fine to me. It looks fine, but the online submission tool processes it wrong. > I'll repeat what I keep saying when problems with included references > (network, encoding, whatnot) come up: don't include, just download and > paste in. That way, the XML is under your control and self-contained. It sounds  reasonable, but: How do you know there will be a problem until you figure out what caused the failure.  Like that IEEE DOI include I point to in another message.  Took me a few hours to back out a lot of changes and reapply and run xml2rfc with each one until I hit on the change that actually generated the error. Supposedly an include like this one is an outside source, so it would seem we want to keep the flexibility of dynamically grabbing this outside source at the last step possible. Sigh.  LIfe was never meant to be easy.  Signing off for the night. > > Best regards, Julian > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Mon Dec 14 22:46:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5023A0AF3 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:46:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qopj_Q0xWLLH for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B92723A0AE6 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cw81g0nt3zyVR; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:46:47 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <3925695c-333d-9e8e-fee1-db3479f6d117@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:46:46 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629707606.541779-f5e83da95e895a5638e766eb72c5b87a Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3925695c-333d-9e8e-fee1-db3479f6d117@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Date format -- Re: Strange behavior with a DOI reference include X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:46:53 -0000 On 2020-12-15, at 04:47, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > That triggers an issue in RFCXML V3 that so far was papered over by the = v2v3 converter. In v2, if you want to have non-numeric information in the date field = (e.g., =E2=80=9Cn.d.=E2=80=9D for no date), you put it into the year = attribute of the date element: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7749#section-2.13 In v3, this was changed: The date element got content, which is = supposed to be used for dates that do not clearly have year/month/day. = Actually: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7991#section-2.17 still says it=E2=80=99s = the way it was in v2, but=20 = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-levkowetz-xml2rfc-v3-implementation-note= s-11#section-4.1.3 reneges and the documentation that comes with xml2rfc (the URI for which = I forget) has more details on the change. =20 The bibxml data generated from DOIs don=E2=80=99t know that. If you convert a v2 document into v3, non-numeric year data will be = moved into the content of . If you import bibxml data into a = document that is putatively v3, that breaks for a non-numeric date. (There also is a question whether doilit should apply a heuristic to = generate a date even if the DOI data say {"issued":{"date-parts":[[null]]}} which I think is breakage. But that is orthogonal to be above issue.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Dec 14 23:02:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C153A0B62 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:02:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o-jDo8xSZg3E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65B5B3A0DCE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cw8N60dVTzyWt; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:02:46 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:02:45 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629708565.482532-9a2f34f711fb056cc92e6a7af611a870 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3925695c-333d-9e8e-fee1-db3479f6d117@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Date format -- Re: Strange behavior with a DOI reference include X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:02:55 -0000 On 2020-12-15, at 07:46, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > {"issued":{"date-parts":[[null]]}} Reproduce: $ curl -sLH "Accept: application/citeproc+json" = https://dx.doi.org/10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7786995 | jq .issued { "date-parts": [ [ null ] ] } (Origin of that data: $ curl -ILH "Accept: application/citeproc+json" = https://dx.doi.org/10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7786995 HTTP/2 302 =E2=80=A6 location: https://data.crossref.org/10.1109%2FIEEESTD.2016.7786995 HTTP/1.1 200 OK =E2=80=A6 link: ; = rel=3D=E2=80=9Ccanonical" I don=E2=80=99t know whether crossref is broken or whether IEEE sullied = it with broken data; the effect is the same.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon Dec 14 23:20:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9613A0B6C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:20:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z3zjtQrKrrmo for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04C9F3A0B6E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cw8mh3Bs7zyVj; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:20:36 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:20:36 +0100 Cc: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629709636.064026-6145a0f6023e6b5080fd54d8c1b2a3bf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:20:41 -0000 On 2020-12-15, at 05:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > The xml comes via an include: >=20 > >=20 >=20 > It should not be that this works locally, but not with the submission = tool. The XML at draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.xml starts with: Is that how you actually submitted it? 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(unless there's a bug in xml2rfc...) FWIW, it *seems* to me that all is well, except that the text file https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt is served with incorrect HTTP header fields (as Martin correctly pointed out), while https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt is ok. Best regards, Julian From nobody Tue Dec 15 00:29:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36533A0E49; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:29:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oNXMR0ZhGI-y; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE9573A0E44; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CwBHr3gKpzyVj; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:29:12 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:29:12 +0100 Cc: Robert Moskowitz , XML2RFC Interest Group , Tools Team Discussion X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629713752.16143-ef1bddf1a77e98d570430c33d7d462b1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <492F3F15-8A95-4DCD-811B-5AE50E94EB5B@tzi.org> References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> To: Julian Reschke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:29:18 -0000 >=20 > Why would that matter? (unless there's a bug in xml2rfc...) I have no idea how =20 > FWIW, it *seems* to me that all is well, except that the text file >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt >=20 > is served with incorrect HTTP header fields (as Martin correctly = pointed > out), while >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt >=20 > is ok. Yep. Should have checked with my local copy, which is also OK (rsync = doesn=E2=80=99t break UTF-8). Since the incorrect HTTP header is = entirely an ietf.org infrastructure problem; I have CCed tools-discuss. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Dec 15 00:34:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A7A3A0E48; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:34:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7b8kNaiQsQto; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 755EE3A0E33; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:34:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608021270; bh=EmuP6QB8vjzIXHSxm6M+dGN+ToXoamhtAhiYO5urmHc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Jd4eHgBx1L+fK+ereZmuejcwXeXijyiwTKU5DbEAvbgBeA7TPbAKfsu5sfjQxCw5Z fhIcHBW9p14u4Ha5Ih1tSlyygOaY4NHOLxtgz4Tb7s+jmX37/xpSkuRIW2G1q+q+7L Fs4L59mh/RCoOdOyAssd2/NlyKIAkRwrHSWe+b2I= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.155.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3lY1-1kpv0A4A43-000seB; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:34:30 +0100 To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Robert Moskowitz , XML2RFC Interest Group , Tools Team Discussion References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> <492F3F15-8A95-4DCD-811B-5AE50E94EB5B@tzi.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <5cb4bb93-9ebc-d572-b51c-bc6e5b00d881@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:34:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <492F3F15-8A95-4DCD-811B-5AE50E94EB5B@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:BN80BUKAD0DOQFsrPUo3ZpDHysSr4cQ4BzkhQim6vPLV5eyGLdZ 3iLeNjKuu45Lk16v4HjDxAgp7rVYoEyABi9qhxoNm6G7+hDkC/h2e16GWLvryMRGtSqUCiF 82PssY/z2Th2JzFhJ1DMZ9II6hfc/+32bAfqd66TMjDv5whTYTLPtNfPZ6ZjXpEu1hILqxZ bQMoIG3dKdVIfj4aaAiRw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:EaJ9slhTuHo=:kEVrYr7ScqEETvcCAQ31tc e9A8bht2tJUuy92jnfQnGjlEjwef8uT4Mszd+JkS9a+9L8ZRhbsYgb3PhXZ6zQYbnREOoge++ 052TscCcI4iITcpGMBA3ctLio81Bd1UYZ1R0tFvFMWPNxJWYWaHzPOQN7vMsUdxK7aNyzGbFA cTggc7NrBJOk4z0e5ygAOpUi9SmQtOwef+JiQ6M1N80InQNxtOcFo+ZYGALgNYu/1tYp8n/H8 GfBg/XGWo2j4ri/U7k/V0INDjLNf2C73dzW4jCvVIbrRWYraKVbO8DRCgWaUOJ8ddYqUabhKe ZuB9EQcyGke6iVAN0OGBDfu2NgBqV7g/hSdv3900XiX7eMlveDMDzJDl4r92ek3siY2/UnR/4 eo+w/Nb0JBNguGRyNjuiZm7dr3iwsUwIhpFuTswIMbp4o0sOnHW6gxDpjz3IUqveLXyoDpGUQ RcQMhkIZ+CBLQcxUVJ/BGtVNt4lCOYtHNdt+i3RCBVlCEH96yCJ2dXOHhKsfMC0PHChiRKTXn l7jSZ7WHiHdiiumICxkB+Plmt4P/rxgwaCPzuiQcJVXj4jCRybdTPeGmmdXXCrKlJM4Y1Va0q EQCNz/J/7Btp1mKY+vmYxZyTsduR31zW5jUWFZOU7PrT7wAqdwiKILt37pC//Ff8/OtmXFkPl WETos2f5OldTz32dNosxOLbrrzK3t5mdYq/FMkGS47cCdFrRDdSYFClfyfE09lccw1VjGq2UR T7S/cHihj5UHqn+sdlxwFembSBRm8MrUTupf3rGrNLy3qZlbsbdVihSv+Z5AB+W0DT3+9jsBQ E5Je47Fc0fMHsl1r5Gv0MYLEM9ycVpDiJg5nRjxo4eTHsReOPhNZDrGbNyShTzceK7x0Q4GVH P1USvMgPt+v04b8fQgrw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:34:49 -0000 Am 15.12.2020 um 09:29 schrieb Carsten Bormann: >> >> Why would that matter? (unless there's a bug in xml2rfc...) > > I have no idea how > >> FWIW, it *seems* to me that all is well, except that the text file >> >> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt >> >> is served with incorrect HTTP header fields (as Martin correctly pointe= d >> out), while >> >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.txt >> >> is ok. > > Yep. Should have checked with my local copy, which is also OK (rsync do= esn=E2=80=99t break UTF-8). Since the incorrect HTTP header is entirely a= n ietf.org infrastructure problem; I have CCed tools-discuss. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten There's already a ticket (should have repeated that here): Best regards, Julian From nobody Tue Dec 15 03:28:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1DD3A104D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:28:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dh0BfKp7Sy5Y for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83A983A0FBA for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 03:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933DE62422; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:28:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id CeggIHN-85fF; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51F4462416; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:28:30 -0500 (EST) To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:28:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:28:38 -0000 On 12/15/20 2:20 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-12-15, at 05:18, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> The xml comes via an include: >> >> >> >> >> It should not be that this works locally, but not with the submission tool. > The XML at draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.xml starts with: > > > > Is that how you actually submitted it? I believe ALL my draft xml start with: That is what is in the template I have here. Am I behind the times?   :) From nobody Tue Dec 15 04:08:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F643A1083 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:08:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a_0Ujk4p35yK for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EA953A107D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 04:08:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608034119; bh=XJ3GOh4iVEPKWuMVzmT9C9BNKb8Uxbqxgn8D3SS+u90=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hF4ghONLzaSr+8iHC5GIixn4nrhMMVzFLeUmNvLK/V0G2yvxvGDnnE1/Zc0OY6XZl pVpCqZ9YbcYy2NgXgUZjYe+r5InGaot8abd6Oga71CGaZ1O1GprMW+7sTkUF64UzEC o0B5GRyIRBvDA8FEXhsjWcJoYTxl+A8l3MsHiATM= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.155.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MfYPi-1k9EoI476e-00fz3E; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:08:39 +0100 To: Robert Moskowitz , Carsten Bormann Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:08:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XmC8/fdBINjt45buhSYY9Ttht/L9AeuIgxtJxu6bvwv2OZMfOAQ 8Nb48NAtEuRWReGb8kASNQhwDrN++hLpfAYb0Gbu40vlE1T1+c/W+Req1dZ/7kNBXwU2WXi cxIYvdsCtGjOhZqQ9upXLMT4+KQ/XIrUas9ID4/OUu1lm8x4Zyb1V/9dQUo5SjEjyyyRqGL zGFLfb7bkU5OQS3znCAgA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PHw3RC0X2WM=:M6RfgMdjOM0ZlCecuKJ1Ab KsIrXYs0OuB62hAcks0Y1qPm1IDG0Gi+DdpnoSP7YTp0dH1chF5VeycX2QYAL0ZV2o252ML4H tI0lvCjkPN5T5FHXQ0Y7qaM950D5Jg0ouEN4wsIDT0EeLQ4VXBpSpKvYh9qALRd8rH7AxAItb yeS+5hsJW3w20TWBiAUDHuLG4qRu1a0GLBYaR0RNBUszMBEd1qUBr40lMpSf4x0sBqwFdS/7o 7X9z91J93aDqf3qMdeDYlCU0Hc6yg0snC38KmBhr/q2TFX0diVDJ7IYizsUzgfs4i90Q73MZs x1RLq/zPNYf1+FmB1jBHn1S+EhTJAI65L4tB1YDAeF/X7hedTHvt6NzFtWcxi0s6Fj04gldw8 PyCe/B4SIC8De5Es7NJzvKu4nF4L6Eqz4mdWhd2DQyHnhXopol08Dm9tdLtDoanwDDOcNqUhQ wNdjRPcp8cDW+sIOu1aSalfOQPQ4jdiysU2KMc7PsgGOzSVQJeJFoJosZaB/EKkpl1kLRS5+O nrUyi1Xzabcvq+hSTOCFuXb1PcL/gQueV7B3p497GDf+b1F++6tsDiDPYKsGGl/AdZvJ0T7D5 mHt1SY+E706pCyBlBEzwwsR2NJeCYNo3YgO1siDJ1+yGEsJ6uC0mjToG0T+sygULCqlBjP9Df zN0kL+bZF4fRKeb5BebY8qQFItgLwlquuUgTZy/hWL3V3T9X65ZQ24rWT3v6rjjcEISx/GHSS LeU3ys4cPqIDIVnXK8koVT1tlVN4RcfVPA6LJNdRI9amWXMUtb7n0evMeunk6NZFpxaT5hObh Mntdkx/dp5xnxOs2btKnWI86sYjqy6urjpOSHlFe/jStnpO6lqTeZFZ66Slkv/XV9V/UXHHIo zbuBc3WRgRBi6XoarOOg== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 12:08:57 -0000 Am 15.12.2020 um 12:28 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > ... >> The XML at draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.xml starts with: >> >> >> >> Is that how you actually submitted it? > > > I believe ALL my draft xml start with: > > > > > That is what is in the template I have here. > > Am I behind the times?=C2=A0=C2=A0 :) > ... No, that's fine (assuming that any non-ASCII characters in your document are actually encoded in UTF-8). Best regards, Julian From nobody Tue Dec 15 06:26:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4903A1142 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:26:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zDIxmQ53N8uU for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB55C3A0E4B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42662569 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vuSupVIurUYz for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8804062416 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:26:22 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <1ebd91ef-5219-4e2f-6eee-982da2db6249@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:26:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Problem with IEEE 802.15.4-2015 DOI X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:26:35 -0000 IEEE 802.15.4-2015 is available from: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875 and shows the DOI of 10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 When I try: wget https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875.xml It aborts with a 404 NOT FOUND When I try https://doi.org/10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 it loops right back to the ieeexplore page above. can anyone help me?  I can contact the 802 EC on issues (like the date problem in 802.11-2016), but I need information to show them. From nobody Tue Dec 15 06:30:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2CC3A114A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1hyGjbW6OduD for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A5663A1100 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:30:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE8962569; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EtDbiFjHt4J7; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A53462416; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:30:20 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , Carsten Bormann Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <6fca9fff-2167-7da2-0c2e-87228f89c344@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:30:17 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:30:35 -0000 On 12/15/20 7:08 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 15.12.2020 um 12:28 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> ... >>> The XML at draft-ietf-hip-dex-22.xml starts with: >>> >>> >>> >>> Is that how you actually submitted it? >> >> >> I believe ALL my draft xml start with: >> >> >> >> >> That is what is in the template I have here. >> >> Am I behind the times?   :) >> ... > > No, that's fine (assuming that any non-ASCII characters in your document > are actually encoded in UTF-8). And how am I to know that with all this masked thanks to 'working' gui tools. I suppose I need something that shows the binary content of the xml and then knowledge on how to read it.  Anything as nice as dumpasn.1 in openSSL? :) From nobody Tue Dec 15 06:51:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB273A1164; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:51:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3f3B1LGP1mQ5; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAE2F3A1162; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:62759 helo=tannat.local) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kpBfY-0007ay-ND; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:51:18 -0800 To: Robert Moskowitz , Carsten Bormann References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:51:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8kh61iDWngfeKDdseiedpKIk4S6u8QGoE" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, xml2rfc@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org, rgm@htt-consult.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:51:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8kh61iDWngfeKDdseiedpKIk4S6u8QGoE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TI6GboiXwMvvtBScSsCLejo9U1I5qmUuk"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Robert Moskowitz , Carsten Bormann Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion Message-ID: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: --TI6GboiXwMvvtBScSsCLejo9U1I5qmUuk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-12-15 04:58, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:= >>> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: >> Don=E2=80=99t send the txt file with a v3 source. >> >> (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes probl= ems.) >> >=20 >=20 > I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the proble= m=20 > was the author's name in the reference. >=20 > locally I get > R., H=C3=A5stad >=20 > the submit generates: >=20 > R., H=C3=83=C2=A5stad >=20 > Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just=20 > for this one error? I suspect the file on disk on the ietf server is correct, and the issue i= s that the mime-type indicated by the server is incorrect. 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What you need to know is that no tool is trying to =E2=80=9Chelp=E2=80=9D = you. Today, everything is in UTF-8. Our systems are still littered with little modules that try to convert = things that no longer exist into UTF-8 (and possibly even back). When I import a csv into MOff, it interprets the data as MacRoman. =20 An encoding that has been obsolete for at least 22 years. (Obviously, Libreoffice gets this right.) HTTP defaults to ISO-8859-1. Well, that probably was as far as things = could go in the early 1990s. But, today, server configs need to default = to UTF-8 (i.e., always send content-type) to override this no longer = useful defaults. And that is the problem here: The data file in the I-D repo is correct, = but the server doesn=E2=80=99t say it is UTF-8 and so the =E2=80=9Chelpful= =E2=80=9D default of HTTP takes over. Only in /archive, because that is the part that doesn=E2=80=99t have the = necessary =E2=80=9Chere, too=E2=80=9D UTF-8 configuration. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:18:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FE93A107C for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:18:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cNeeXY3wtCMk for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C62D53A11D9 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:17:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608045450; bh=5zEC+8mM325Oq3J6d/jkvZ1ZeH4XA398cFrdP+KqpDI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=BEYQqD8RbkUVVqdn44HxaZagWTfH4BjAVvtlGW7H06vG11ETtk7j92HBvxgveBflc 6wghvdo2BZDnsU9K12ljJIIhFD3HU8FiLG8sLPOqfXXI+7vkgnNlK1PaSYPkq/f1Wv gsoArmzEohYB+WYP/eb5yjVRabtmfIIbUN40WU18= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.155.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MRmjw-1keiVn4322-00TF2P; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:17:30 +0100 To: Carsten Bormann , Robert Moskowitz Cc: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> <1605ab51-b721-9af0-36d8-fd79aceee2c2@htt-consult.com> <27280BED-7DD7-49F1-A1F0-CC45685A67A1@tzi.org> <6fca9fff-2167-7da2-0c2e-87228f89c344@htt-consult.com> <55FDED55-028C-42C0-A3F7-2D72D94D5A50@tzi.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <50eaad8e-147f-0ee8-ee71-f777018ef20b@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:17:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55FDED55-028C-42C0-A3F7-2D72D94D5A50@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3VJ7d3woL7sFDcGMTAUH1GcurTLYT3xtsp7kSfDpPd4i8qi7jMt nIL4woppirOiIWPckHy0wYKhADYyW2Ze01rX1E4zMRuEdlFLeC5AXMBC5uxWI6C1iY3so2w xSSnWYDVMH/HeJVJKPWe2079R3ON+hcD2wSy1yxQ2rWZXGoaQAgI6BLfzCxNGjJI3n+hlsO cPwyMBrLmFlXcojqPrBUA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vMOoCfKzug8=:OnMI/7WxUjtsOF/UdLGeMu CPtf4VcEusQ7J7hPF3OX0dKZvi0BEU8oSD2Y5pnPM5GqzZEeUsSgaR+1GNM+zPBDEiVF0QAkn 7dkVMpYohhUNEOjR93QnJNxfba2C4HFs03Znvyy8xv4YJCvLUkpEoqQq5lVPBpC+0gYTEvV9w Xubksh4PkV7w/CUE6D3N6lqpeFzP96Hwj/pdkEkWe86gn3yHmqq18/Dh6yDZFKxXxuaWZpMVc pbE5nPXho89u/Z9KbCLLL4wUUI1SYXd2f9r4Y6bGDLupVK+rHYbnbt5la+sIH6OUKVcDPC5YL KlYR6Rrq3v++HY4IwMnicX4WXmdF2Ps8XjndGX0Nd30o2Sm9tQcEQcRDMXb/8MTC9f3Y2dvrV haauwuXBegTkXz7LvG0xkmFkC5MWxYQ17Ts1KOxWcurmi9OV0fh32JLouJWf9Sf+jC5fpuyA8 cizgLLJYPPG80udNp9HLK0e55E4xZ3JSi4M5p/RnU5L5X0J+9n0gq+Dok2hPegPrzZbmzbFR6 tzQGZ8nYvkQ1qGTiantbnU5aq0XE4jgavMz3E0AJCVpRJz2h1oepW3R/Ar9klGye6uLLWJKOo wSuoYhkqlM0Vv5PV/05Qbcn2KOyBf73oPStP3OaMmMCnQ3+rGjGedPe+WObEAXp+7Z+K7LhvJ 5PQWDuutpTNynIMiqfldZV51xWuqREBSUPZNj6mFyKK5j4Z+pKmeBmC/5wc1Q2yM0N1QTxJuK oiZCl/QdgZJgxfS43ivbz8qjzGff45hUy2ejBnHNv+ZaYuURQA7fNmDYTvOvwXLZskgjVQK1Y KlJoYj5gTzbCjvZmxyCsTL/eYVAKF9X6oZlQIZy7KTF2hDLKh+0ipU7oz9vHxU9Qgk/WhVxM3 90KwMVt0GMw0G0dGukNg== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:18:02 -0000 Am 15.12.2020 um 15:59 schrieb Carsten Bormann: > On 2020-12-15, at 15:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> And how am I to know that with all this masked thanks to 'working' gui = tools. > > What you need to know is that no tool is trying to =E2=80=9Chelp=E2=80= =9D you. Just use Notepad :-) > Today, everything is in UTF-8. > Our systems are still littered with little modules that try to convert t= hings that no longer exist into UTF-8 (and possibly even back). > > When I import a csv into MOff, it interprets the data as MacRoman. > An encoding that has been obsolete for at least 22 years. > (Obviously, Libreoffice gets this right.) > > HTTP defaults to ISO-8859-1. Well, that probably was as far as things c= ould go in the early 1990s. But, today, server configs need to default to= UTF-8 (i.e., always send content-type) to override this no longer useful = defaults. That default has been removed six years ago. The server is sending *no* content-type at all, plus "x-content-type-options: nosniff", so the UA isn't told what it is, but *is* told not to sniff. Sigh. > And that is the problem here: The data file in the I-D repo is correct, = but the server doesn=E2=80=99t say it is UTF-8 and so the =E2=80=9Chelpful= =E2=80=9D default of HTTP takes over. > Only in /archive, because that is the part that doesn=E2=80=99t have the= necessary =E2=80=9Chere, too=E2=80=9D UTF-8 configuration. Best regards, Julian From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:18:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3E23A107C; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:18:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxHucZc1gr46; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C2CD3A11D8; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3B062569; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 10:18:34 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FCl8F3mKWuf7; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 10:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5EA2C62416; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 10:18:28 -0500 (EST) To: Henrik Levkowetz , Carsten Bormann Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" , Tools Team Discussion References: <53618DA1-CD97-4F7B-B82C-F65C3AE064BF@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 10:18:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Failed decoding the uploaded file X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:18:44 -0000 On 12/15/20 9:51 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > On 2020-12-15 04:58, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> On 12/14/20 7:55 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> On 2020-12-15, at 01:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>> But I am getting the follow error from the txt file: >>> Don’t send the txt file with a v3 source. >>> >>> (Another thing suggested by the submission interface that causes problems.) >>> >> >> I did not include the txt, only the xml and I was right that the problem >> was the author's name in the reference. >> >> locally I get >> R., Håstad >> >> the submit generates: >> >> R., HÃ¥stad >> >> Not good. can we get this fixed and I will have to rev the draft just >> for this one error? > I suspect the file on disk on the ietf server is correct, and the issue is > that the mime-type indicated by the server is incorrect. I only submitted the xml, not the txt that my local xml2rfc built. It was that local txt that the upload barfed on with the illegal character.  What you have only is the base xml and the txt built by the online submission tool. From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:23:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B7E3A0E06 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:23:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aG1bCVxLEwxi for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7367D3A0DAD for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.120] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CwMTD332Bz1018; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:22:56 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <1ebd91ef-5219-4e2f-6eee-982da2db6249@htt-consult.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:22:55 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629738575.8539571-962222578f87976c2cc4be3c57940958 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1ebd91ef-5219-4e2f-6eee-982da2db6249@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Problem with IEEE 802.15.4-2015 DOI X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:23:01 -0000 > On 2020-12-15, at 15:26, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > IEEE 802.15.4-2015 is available from: >=20 > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875 >=20 > and shows the DOI of >=20 > 10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 There is very little useful metadata under that DOI: $ doilit -h=3Dfoo 10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 foo: seriesinfo: IEEE: standard DOI: 10.1109/ieeestd.2016.7460875 title: IEEE Standard for Low-Rate Wireless Networks > When I try: >=20 > wget = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1109/IE= EESTD.2016.7460875.xml >=20 > It aborts with a 404 NOT FOUND The IEEE DOI server is super-flaky; it can take a minute to get the = data, and something on the IETF server may time out the request. >=20 > When I try >=20 > https://doi.org/10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 >=20 > it loops right back to the ieeexplore page above. Try curl -sLH "Accept: application/citeproc+json" = https://dx.doi.org/10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875 | jq=20 for the original data (leave out the =E2=80=9C| jq=E2=80=9D if you = don=E2=80=99t have that installed). Not all of these data are picked up = by doilit. I wouldn=E2=80=99t mind suggestions for what else should be (e.g., there = is no =E2=80=9Cissued=E2=80=9D metadata here, but there is = =E2=80=9Capproved=E2=80=9D). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Dec 16 09:51:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B683A0A49 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:51:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9A0PRe3vT1nQ for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A943A3A0A4C for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 09:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.120] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Cx2jl14lQzyjq; Wed, 16 Dec 2020 18:51:07 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 18:51:06 +0100 Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 629833866.656816-16aba58586b60ad11b234d848966e43d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D8BF6C0-578E-4B7B-9B02-D6A3242F6EEA@tzi.org> References: <4cff4b9c-6464-659d-8b27-32396b59182c@levkowetz.com> <115988ED-68A9-4E99-BB2E-55E0B5B0E96A@tzi.org> <44D623BB-9F0C-41F9-92E3-A39B0FAB8164@eggert.org> <5129aae3-d14b-23ee-43b0-ad7a0cf44bee@gmx.de> <3199a9ee-e568-fa59-e8cd-4bb861a57daf@gmx.de> <2CB2234E-0F90-4C2A-8084-7E89656AA9C9@tzi.org> To: RFC Interest X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] [rfc-i] Unicode in xml2rfc v3 X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:51:12 -0000 On 2020-12-16, at 16:29, Lars Eggert wrote: >=20 > (Sorry, I'm grumpy.) If you want to know what happens when I am grumpy: http://www.tzi.de/~cabo/contact-hack.sh Enjoy (doesn=E2=80=99t fix the version used at submission time, though) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed Dec 23 08:52:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CA43A0C8A for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FrvCV5eN1utz for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A1BC3A0C88 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 08:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B0F62422 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:52:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pEXjdWIx-HGV for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA9FA623C1 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:52:15 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:52:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Converting BibTeX citations to xml reference objects X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:52:26 -0000 I want to have a reference to Xoodyak: https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/767.pdf I can always hand code the reference but maybe... There is no nice DOI for this, but there is a BibTeX citation: https://eprint.iacr.org/eprint-bin/cite.pl?entry=2018/767 Is there a tool for converting a BibTeX citation? Tools are nice.  When available. thanks. From nobody Thu Dec 24 07:34:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F03A12BE for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:34:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7X_HsyHE-nk3 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AE343A12C1 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 07:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CC8624C0 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:34:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QVO6hjpNIgaT for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0543862422 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:34:21 -0500 (EST) To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:34:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 15:34:30 -0000 I am copying some formulas from the cryptographic function, Xoodyak. https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/767.pdf Specifically I am having problems with (page 22): x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 xml2rfc renders this as: x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 How can I get the proper special character into my draft?  Or, if anyone has experience with this sort of a formula, what else might I use that works in xml2rfc? thanks From nobody Thu Dec 24 08:32:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56673A1307 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:32:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gUEwgw2g6gWY for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C991A3A1306 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 08:32:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608827569; bh=vXdSn84roxZFsIoQX/LrsRFnHNAeoHPxUkQl01WG5io=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Kya18i/+CKCzGdSU7ZDPiDiysg/IYAr2XrO3P4d0gHTUsxog7PhBSOuHnBGZ+Gfjw aP117fV8CwvZ3A4lditqUtDSb//cpajOQuIqxxNZ6fMm5yr5aiW2ghP4eZqglWk0xf fmRv/+H+9229i1dj/8NbnAFCkX3fe3HtW9dWQv0E= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.158.45]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MO9z7-1khi3N3pVZ-00OYdQ for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:32:48 +0100 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:32:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qso3wJf6wX7AX4wBr/wKbdKeZDvXZHTgb7toUt52mio71nltVxh JHg6CqT779SuQJ0OY7wPMFpW2NEcvZRSKo40P0aWGn+Tzi9CLxWyxoHJbL8nFIvu+PtKJKK GVPeGJGMDQRUBZP+YFb4kzSdYNX3k2oanCQ/cZQ1h5J0s5JkM1Gml/MGG41Ju+wXGMrM6TU I9wVGlgO9ofq4mLVaT2Pw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ltNOmDvVYPU=:0NXzy0Qr5ySeAnFPdUaPdY boLsf2Tyye9FYMFxUt0GQvcIygRURYUbrFEKKcCcWn88y00+2KC8O+3Ek/fxUI0Opma/aHxMl OLl3VCSvNNjnKgks6DgTH3VYxSYdB2pSiO6n6A5HwlRRk+5HPTDfnr7DVMB91Wd1zf2rja4Sx Yvnb2BGHodl4s8UGYte0IGQA3Q7DETo7unsSQhHIjMy93cSnnzEDznGj9Jxy+RWHYZ7z4ot5c fmeCBjQpx/gmdhNpmCYpz1uDVGRbwykxumyBajKzmGSs31eTjabeTMhYUwzBLigidOdpbAgeO uaWdpH0/JAeCpDLMopYZe3BVB9fVJYbF7e1DYG/4MpgwH8csveWQ/pDBFo2j8IP835Y1YUBl/ ma/o52ut0INwmuK+qiAn9HEaYs6f4U1wJC2jPd9UX+CYDfdcJuoVBGD7Z3djG1x95m3ol/KHT bEnARnXvD1WKsvmX0AbhwXCZt/Yi7gtNMiYzDfvMmi/NKxy42Efy1lLklFqHwH1Xu18q4duru xKUXyLs12HfsTDUnDxHZ+lpAoRe72tqq57Z5pWToABcPggVQpw60ktcieF3KeQH+RlNDUcPt5 OCGUR9yC4tjaxJelqoOnANB0Ydb5XGFj2PTNAMcQi9DT8BFvIcrnQsH+H7PweA36VHAdcyk/1 /DmlSZJEUvJGGbCpq+JkIkVW6Qw4qfxg52bODQ16f9AwMoaebpQHpshQCwTBgizeWBwpNWdS5 stdc/2FlZm/AjvpVmFcyBxqEKH+VEaoGE9AY0jvDvNQ/Ckogw/xSyE7yKOMW7S+MYaLk7POOm C2MY0dXCquMAjT1/lgG3BCHyyVLsvxCgFjTeCX8eqe6XCbI54SN/3nnN++w98Rp5crqFYmT4q G38EcQiA7ZMb2uiWs42w== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:55 -0000 Am 24.12.2020 um 16:34 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > I am copying some formulas from the cryptographic function, Xoodyak. > > https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/767.pdf > > Specifically I am having problems with (page 22): > > x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6 x1 > > xml2rfc renders this as: > > x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 > > How can I get the proper special character into my draft?=C2=A0 Or, if a= nyone > has experience with this sort of a formula, what else might I use that > works in xml2rfc? Does the HTML output work? Where do you have the formula? In a regular paragraph? AFAIU, xml2rfc will not allow this, but putting this into might get you around that restriction. Best regards, Julian From nobody Thu Dec 24 10:14:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75EB3A1357 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:14:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1_KhD4CfHse0 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 276683A1354 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B172462422; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 13:14:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NNt-LAd7kVP8; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 13:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2356362416; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 13:14:31 -0500 (EST) To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 13:14:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:14:47 -0000 On 12/24/20 11:32 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Am 24.12.2020 um 16:34 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> I am copying some formulas from the cryptographic function, Xoodyak. >> >> https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/767.pdf >> >> Specifically I am having problems with (page 22): >> >> x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 >> >> xml2rfc renders this as: >> >> x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 >> >> How can I get the proper special character into my draft?  Or, if anyone >> has experience with this sort of a formula, what else might I use that >> works in xml2rfc? > > Does the HTML output work? Where do you have the formula? In a regular > paragraph? AFAIU, xml2rfc will not allow this, but putting this into > might get you around that restriction. same formatting problem in HTML output from xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org It is in a regular paragraph.     Xoodyak can also naturally implement a Dec function and process a     sequence of strings.  Here the output depends on the sequence as     such and not just on the concatenation of the different strings. To     compute a n-byte digest over the sequence x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1     {XHASH(n, x3,x2,x1)}, one does: When I stuff it into an artwork with CDATA for testing: It works right. Grumble.  Now I have to figure out a reasonable format maybe stuff CDATA into a paragraph?     Xoodyak can also naturally implement a Dec function and process a     sequence of strings.  Here the output depends on the sequence as     such and not just on the concatenation of the different strings. To     compute a n-byte digest over the sequence     {XHASH(n, x3,x2,x1)}, one does: Produces the same gobbled text as without CDATA.     Xoodyak can also naturally implement a Dec function and process a     sequence of strings.  Here the output depends on the sequence as     such and not just on the concatenation of the different strings. To     compute a n-byte digest over the sequence     {XHASH(n, x3,x2,x1)}, one does: And artwork cannot go into a paragraph. Now what to do??? thanks From nobody Thu Dec 24 12:08:53 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D983A0825 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:08:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MpCGdS777NGr for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 432F93A07F0 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D21Nt4WbPzyRD; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:08:46 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:08:46 +0100 Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 630533326.145425-60ba2f8d7f44b92df061090c919c13ee Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8270F3C4-2844-4F8B-A112-917910134F96@tzi.org> References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 20:08:52 -0000 On 2020-12-24, at 19:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > Now what to do??? As always: Cheat. In kramdown-rfc, it would be To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence {{{x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6= x1}{}}}, one does: Currently, kramdown-rfc turns this into this little exploit: To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence , one does: I=E2=80=99m sure the way this is expressed in XML will change, but = I=E2=80=99ll try to keep the kramdown-rfc input stable. (Alternative keyboarding: To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence $$x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6 = x1$$, one does: =E2=9E=94 To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6= x1, one does: Or maybe you actually mean: To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence $$x3 \circ x2 \circ x1$$, = one does: =E2=9E=94 To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence x3 =E2=88=98 x2 =E2=88=98= x1, one does: ) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Dec 24 14:11:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9603A0B2D for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:11:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oWpU6eM0GYjR for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6E5A3A0B06 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 14:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20F762422; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:11:12 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cDvBbtZMSOtC; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22B1D62416; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:11:00 -0500 (EST) To: Carsten Bormann Cc: XML2RFC Interest Group References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> <8270F3C4-2844-4F8B-A112-917910134F96@tzi.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <189396d6-093a-abad-0b30-7d754a2dc020@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 17:10:51 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8270F3C4-2844-4F8B-A112-917910134F96@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 22:11:17 -0000 Carsten, On 12/24/20 3:08 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-12-24, at 19:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Now what to do??? > As always: Cheat. > > In kramdown-rfc, it would be > > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence {{{x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1}{}}}, one does: > > Currently, kramdown-rfc turns this into this little exploit: > > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence , one does: this works! > > I’m sure the way this is expressed in XML will change, but I’ll try to keep the kramdown-rfc input stable. > > (Alternative keyboarding: > > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence $$x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1$$, one does: > ➔ > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1, one does: > > Or maybe you actually mean: > > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence $$x3 \circ x2 \circ x1$$, one does: > ➔ > To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence x3 ∘ x2 ∘ x1, one does: > ) these don't  :( I also looked in the html special characters &...;  and did not see the circle.  Degree was closest. But thank you.  I have it fixed for now until/if they change the XML as you mention. 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Please don't. This is a defect in xml2rfc (IMHO), and should be fixed. Raise tickets. 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Raise tickets. Agreed. We already have tickets about the appropriate use of , and I agree that the rules for where you can use non-ASCII characters in text need to be updated. R's, John From nobody Thu Dec 24 16:15:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A493A0E9B for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:15:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3_BHLfH8T6au for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DCFC3A0E99 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C17624C0; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:15:24 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ak9U3T3oGEDb; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CAE762422; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:15:12 -0500 (EST) To: John Levine , xml2rfc@ietf.org Cc: julian.reschke@gmx.de References: <20201224235454.C1FFF2B594B4@ary.qy> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <3b044388-b19d-6511-f053-04e32ccec1a3@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 19:15:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201224235454.C1FFF2B594B4@ary.qy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:15:30 -0000 Please point me to how/where to submit a ticket for this? On 12/24/20 6:54 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <6935d633-f1f2-2921-ee86-71310125c0a7@gmx.de> you write: >>>> Currently, kramdown-rfc turns this into this little exploit: >>>> >>>>    To compute an n-byte digest over the sequence >>> fullname="x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1" asciiFullname=""/>, one does: >>> this works! >> Please don't. >> >> This is a defect in xml2rfc (IMHO), and should be fixed. Raise tickets. > Agreed. We already have tickets about the appropriate use of > , and I agree that the rules for where you can use non-ASCII > characters in text need to be updated. > > R's, > John > > _______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc From nobody Thu Dec 24 16:53:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695723A0ED1 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alum.mit.edu Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rKJKHKbJ7wfX for ; 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; X-OriginatorOrg: alum.mit.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2020 00:53:06.3012 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 17087550-da2c-494e-36c8-08d8a86f710b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 3326b102-c043-408b-a990-b89e477d582f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalAttributedTenantConnectingIp: TenantId=3326b102-c043-408b-a990-b89e477d582f; Ip=[18.7.68.33]; Helo=[outgoing-alum.mit.edu] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BL2NAM02FT051.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MW2PR12MB2572 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:53:10 -0000 > On 2020-12-24, at 19:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> Now what to do??? Why not simply turn your equation into a one-line artwork, with the text split into paragraphs before and after? That is fully supported now, and for the use here it seems entirely reasonable even if it isn't exactly the same. Thanks, Paul From nobody Thu Dec 24 18:33:07 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB133A1003 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:33:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d6OeRARn7iwJ for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A82593A1001 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0479C624C0; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:33:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id d+KaVVJ-jsM8; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEA4762422; Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:32:55 -0500 (EST) To: Paul Kyzivat , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> <8270F3C4-2844-4F8B-A112-917910134F96@tzi.org> <957f6385-0ec9-29b0-cc2a-bd6661dbc4ba@alum.mit.edu> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <34848d68-e45e-9f4d-8fa9-9ce46a4de909@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:32:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <957f6385-0ec9-29b0-cc2a-bd6661dbc4ba@alum.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 02:33:05 -0000 On 12/24/20 7:53 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >> On 2020-12-24, at 19:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> Now what to do??? > > Why not simply turn your equation into a one-line artwork, with the > text split into paragraphs before and after? That is fully supported > now, and for the use here it seems entirely reasonable even if it > isn't exactly the same. Working on that... Still should submit a ticket. 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For the format specs (both issues and enhancement requests), there's . For the actual implementation, there's . Best regards, Julian From nobody Fri Dec 25 06:24:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6323A1367 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:24:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZUxlvJLumMQ for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 239933A1366 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 06:24:28 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: 78.243.124.66 Received: from maria (unknown [78.243.124.66]) (Authenticated sender: mailbox@rogerprice.org) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FD3C2000C for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:24:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:24:25 +0100 (CET) From: Roger Price X-X-Sender: rprice@maria.rogerprice.org To: xml2rfc Mailing List Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) X-Message-Flag: Supplemental report to reaper.nsa.gov. rc=0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="-636875520-807328560-1608906266=:26613" Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc] Unable to run xml2rfc --help X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 14:24:31 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---636875520-807328560-1608906266=:26613 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT I downloaded xml2rfc onto a Debian Stretch machine and ran the command xml2rfc --help as described at https://tools.ietf.org/src/xml2rfc/trunk/cli/doc/xml2rfc3.html#format-switches The result was Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/xml2rfc", line 7, in from xml2rfc.run import main File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/__init__.py", line 14, in from xml2rfc.parser import XmlRfcError, CachingResolver, XmlRfcParser, XmlRfc ... File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 437, in _parse_sub itemsappend(_parse(source, state)) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse raise source.error(msg, len(this) + 1 + len(that)) sre_constants.error: bad character range ”-“ at position 7 I am obviously doing something wrong, but I can't see what it is. Any suggestion would be much appreciated. Roger ---636875520-807328560-1608906266=:26613-- From nobody Fri Dec 25 07:08:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F633A13A2 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 07:08:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nt344RkrSuXF for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 07:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A0733A13A1 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 07:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042F624C0; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:08:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3G-fHYYTXdTT; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87DB462416; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:08:20 -0500 (EST) To: Paul Kyzivat , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> <8270F3C4-2844-4F8B-A112-917910134F96@tzi.org> <957f6385-0ec9-29b0-cc2a-bd6661dbc4ba@alum.mit.edu> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:08:18 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <957f6385-0ec9-29b0-cc2a-bd6661dbc4ba@alum.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:08:30 -0000 On 12/24/20 7:53 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >> On 2020-12-24, at 19:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>> Now what to do??? > > Why not simply turn your equation into a one-line artwork, with the > text split into paragraphs before and after? That is fully supported > now, and for the use here it seems entirely reasonable even if it > isn't exactly the same. Not sooo simple.  Looks a little dorky:    Xoodyak can also naturally implement a Dec function and process a    sequence of strings.  Here the output depends on the sequence as such    and not just on the concatenation of the different strings.  To    compute a n-byte digest over the sequence         x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1    {XHASH(n, x3,x2,x1)}, one does:         Cyclist(ε,ε,ε)         Absorb(x1)         Absorb(x2)         Absorb(x3)         Squeeze(n) further thought needed.  Or a proper support of special characters in paragraphs. From nobody Fri Dec 25 21:30:03 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4E33A0AB7 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:30:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EjLIDEC9hOQz for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49A723A0AB4 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 21:30:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608960592; bh=/ak13dszcNrEO/Suux/4T/dCFQ2kyAC82FIq0+vQsmI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CnciBYFzhdKj8xOTLo1rwmZuW2AXp5gWDtAc02SHtmD8MabqozqjzpguTU2kyAvaB S4VDNg3T8+pnExccP2TuI4oINfg22i11x18986W7e4colWpesNBifn1TE95CTSa9Bk UXuEjB0BuX6P4r4Vt3F83nkDdvr/XjGWmbEe+uHA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([84.171.146.247]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MqaxO-1kFLoe11ua-00mZNX; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 06:29:52 +0100 To: Robert Moskowitz , xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <16022047-a8a1-0cc2-4c13-c60457278e82@htt-consult.com> <963e0cfe-5851-d174-a2a0-8d716a9beb83@gmx.de> <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 06:29:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73f6c84e-caa0-2044-d79a-6e03920f0ac4@htt-consult.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JI53D3mdPRwNXsXmGBuCE6X20PCma2KchyKV0WFHYjyqJ4k4UeG 66jJvCD5OKzAtYB2y9+kMB5BfI3IwneIXbGvrYcdjXR5AnWZGtlX9JGNCoQgs0nLW8ObjCt Yt+EO/zjvraduswVDIz+x2Vepjvqck1qZna4qrJr4jjggkHpsiohfMtfEzm1/M5Gc+PHfYQ g1+z4u2Ctlft5cWZmdJIA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ODQVGr8Wgjg=:RD71iPtWQUFxdKcZd18kip 28bj3Pm/4nG/tB20mFuUWFKUdAkTwPib1yCmS6iBaC60mGGaYzSBHLSNTAkqN1vE6hyHRN028 gAhfHhDUQbjwyZ68U+5Z9TfGIFuFJwHKfw0UPIuJXsyexGxvwbshbzL0fw+l7BpABfapi/Ul/ HESnU20qbjuA0MeXd8IRtBzwFgl2MPm0BabhGoXUSeyfSJBAkU4bXGKoUxmCGe7yqx63DlQk5 U6ibno6tIxCiphhhhake6XHQBIjzoqmiEbeMLM0bU/s0TTLyWLfJTm5S8/HPiI3uu62vcyP1i cQ7bya85+EmkLSAOzwTH7kXQfXzEyRfs4cti3x0PmP0xvXcvZwwc/vfQnzkXJa7XgXBXl2iMb Jn303QKRTTMhkG+xxm/tV4aX8I2cURYgH3ZCyVix9TmGcVloPf5poNn/jIW3nQ6KY8i86QNkg UBoCtGy0oHZEhRoI3zkulm+4PYUPt9Fy6mjVLy13JiR9QVwtfXLXO6miCvBl92K2Pvdlq5++m 1yaYA14NsopysQWPqCj9bpGGc6en+7xG6Un27s9d9IbxviImn4egyGzQDaEQ00yatQzA62RM4 2dMnDnrTmVxtpwqAJ2Dri+eiwSydASRIGPdQo+/8VmjyOVzJm2na6obVVIm8PmzGUBudqdBrc m3hZ2Io8ghpnk2VQeAvULOGlB6A0nC55w5aCe6Cq7SlSyuVn+Lwbt7HKwCJoo9CbDFRHvfnvE nMP1doovDqCgLuVav6bfO5zdJLpZxICEJeZ7TAAV0ewKjWXBYLsdtW9VjbWgdCuV8BEQan1RV FvbJCcInO4Lw/PiZsxY8QF97UDYubsPJpaeFb7c3dNovPcWE0LzJAqcSs/Tq/IN/+/mkBa1HT l6q8vKFfviQh81jjVqpw== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Help with a special character in formulas X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 05:30:03 -0000 Am 24.12.2020 um 19:14 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: > On 12/24/20 11:32 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> Am 24.12.2020 um 16:34 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >>> I am copying some formulas from the cryptographic function, Xoodyak. >>> >>> https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/767.pdf >>> >>> Specifically I am having problems with (page 22): >>> >>> x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6 x1 >>> >>> xml2rfc renders this as: >>> >>> x3 ◦ x2 ◦ x1 >>> >>> How can I get the proper special character into my draft?=C2=A0 Or, if= anyone >>> has experience with this sort of a formula, what else might I use that >>> works in xml2rfc? >> >> Does the HTML output work? Where do you have the formula? In a regular >> paragraph? AFAIU, xml2rfc will not allow this, but putting this into >> might get you around that restriction. > > same formatting problem in HTML output from xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org > > It is in a regular paragraph. > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Xoodyak can also naturally implement a Dec function = and process a > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sequence of strings.=C2=A0 Here the output depends o= n the sequence as > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 such and not just on the concatenation of the differ= ent strings. To > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 compute a n-byte digest over the sequence x3 =E2=97= =A6 x2 =E2=97=A6 x1 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {XHASH(n, x3,x2,x1)}, one does: > > > When I stuff it into an artwork with CDATA for testing: > > > x3 =E2=97=A6 x2 =E2=97=A6 x1 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cyclist(=CE=B5,=CE=B5,=CE=B5) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Absorb(x1) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Absorb(x2) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Absorb(x3) > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Squeeze(n) > ]]> > > > It works right. > > Grumble.=C2=A0 Now I have to figure out a reasonable format maybe stuff = CDATA > into a paragraph? CDATA is an escaping mechanism. Use of it doesn't affect what can go where= . > ... Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon Dec 28 07:49:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313833A0C38 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 07:49:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PBv98w1aT3X4 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 07:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72FEB3A03EE for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 07:49:26 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: 78.243.124.66 Received: from maria (unknown [78.243.124.66]) (Authenticated sender: mailbox@rogerprice.org) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5DECFF806 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 15:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:49:23 +0100 (CET) From: Roger Price X-X-Sender: rprice@maria.rogerprice.org To: xml2rfc Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) X-Message-Flag: Supplemental report to reaper.nsa.gov. rc=0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="-636875520-1353790488-1609086303=:26613" Content-ID: Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Unable to run xml2rfc --help X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 15:49:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---636875520-1353790488-1609086303=:26613 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8; FORMAT=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Fri, 25 Dec 2020, Roger Price wrote: > I downloaded xml2rfc onto a Debian Stretch machine and ran the command > > xml2rfc --help > > The result was > ... > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse > raise source.error(msg, len(this) + 1 + len(that)) > sre_constants.error: bad character range ”-“ at position 7 I went back to this problem. xml2rfc --help still crashes, so I tried xml2rfc -h. That worked, so I went back to xml2rfc --help which then worked correctly. I then tried xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml : Python crashes with the same error message. I tried xml2rfc --debug draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml and that worked. I tried xml2rfc --text draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml and Python crashed, so I tried xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml --text and that worked. I repeated xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml --text and this time Python crashed with the usual error message. It looks as if xml2rfc is relying on some work area which it assumes has some initial value, but in practice has a random value. I get the same randomness with Python 3.5.3 and Python 3.8.1. Command uname -a reports Linux maria 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux Roger ---636875520-1353790488-1609086303=:26613-- From nobody Mon Dec 28 10:14:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619CB3A0CD9 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:14:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bDq9mrXeknFZ for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00A983A0CD8 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D4Qft55fbzypT; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:14:14 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-49A360F4-54CE-48D2-9F0E-B7E486063C25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:14:13 +0100 Cc: xml2rfc Mailing List Message-Id: <2211713B-B2D0-4EF3-A0CE-A9C8DC38342F@tzi.org> References: To: Roger Price X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18C66) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Unable to run xml2rfc --help X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:14:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail-49A360F4-54CE-48D2-9F0E-B7E486063C25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can only guess, but probably your locale isn=E2=80=99t en_US.UTF-8 which you= may want to fix.=20 Sent from mobile, sorry for terse > On 28. Dec 2020, at 16:49, Roger Price wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Fri, 25 Dec 2020, Roger Price wrote: >=20 >> I downloaded xml2rfc onto a Debian Stretch machine and ran the command >>=20 >> xml2rfc --help >>=20 >> The result was >> ... >> File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse >> raise source.error(msg, len(this) + 1 + len(that)) >> sre_constants.error: bad character range =E2=80=9D-=E2=80=9C at position 7= >=20 > I went back to this problem. xml2rfc --help still crashes, so I tried xml= 2rfc -h. That worked, so I went back to xml2rfc --help which then worked co= rrectly. >=20 > I then tried xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml : Python crashes wi= th the same error message. I tried xml2rfc --debug draft-davies-template-ba= re-07.xml and that worked. I tried xml2rfc --text draft-davies-template-bare= -07.xml and Python crashed, so I tried xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07= .xml --text and that worked. >=20 > I repeated xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml --text and this time P= ython crashed with the usual error message. >=20 > It looks as if xml2rfc is relying on some work area which it assumes has s= ome initial value, but in practice has a random value. >=20 > I get the same randomness with Python 3.5.3 and Python 3.8.1. Command unam= e -a reports Linux maria 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-1= 2-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux >=20 > Roger_______________________________________________ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc --Apple-Mail-49A360F4-54CE-48D2-9F0E-B7E486063C25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can only guess, but probably your locale is= n=E2=80=99t en_US.UTF-8 which you may want to fix. 

Sent from mobile, sorry for terse=

On 28. Dec 2020,= at 16:49, Roger Price <roger@rogerprice.org> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFOn Fri, 2= 5 Dec 2020, Roger Price wrote:

I downloaded xml2rfc onto a Debian Stretch machine and ran the c= ommand

xml2rfc --help

The result was
...
File "= /usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse
  raise source.error(msg, len(th= is) + 1 + len(that))
= sre_constants.error: bad character range =E2=80=9D-=E2=80=9C at position 7

I went back to this problem. &n= bsp;xml2rfc --help still crashes, so I tried xml2rfc -h.  That worked, s= o I went back to xml2rfc --help which then worked correctly.

I then tried xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml : P= ython crashes with the same error message.  I tried xml2rfc --debug dra= ft-davies-template-bare-07.xml and that worked. I tried xml2rfc --text draft= -davies-template-bare-07.xml and Python crashed, so I tried xml2rfc draft-da= vies-template-bare-07.xml --text and that worked.
I repeated xml2rfc draft-davies-template-bare-07.xml --text and this t= ime Python crashed with the usual error message.

= It looks as if xml2rfc is relying on some work area which it assumes h= as some initial value, but in practice has a random value.
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I get the same randomness with Python 3.5.3 and Python 3.8.1= . Command uname -a reports Linux maria 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+= deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---636875520-1146207565-1609187703=:26613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Can only guess, but probably your locale isn’t en_US.UTF-8 which you may want to fix.  The command locale reports: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= I tried LANG=C xml2rfc -h but this still works/fails randomly. The half of the time when xml2rfc works, it seems to work correctly and I have produced text output from the sample draft. I can also get debug output on STDERR. Roger ---636875520-1146207565-1609187703=:26613-- From nobody Tue Dec 29 02:21:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6583A1352 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 02:21:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HzIrUuhNOd0U for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 02:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A13CC3A1350 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 02:21:51 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: 78.243.124.66 Received: from maria (unknown [78.243.124.66]) (Authenticated sender: mailbox@rogerprice.org) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E95DFFF804 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 10:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 11:21:45 +0100 (CET) From: Roger Price X-X-Sender: rprice@maria.rogerprice.org To: xml2rfc Mailing List In-Reply-To: <5F60BEA3-B363-4DF1-A4B6-01A69DEDD5FD@tzi.org> Message-ID: References: <5F60BEA3-B363-4DF1-A4B6-01A69DEDD5FD@tzi.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) X-Message-Flag: Supplemental report to reaper.nsa.gov. rc=0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="-636875520-1654575153-1609237307=:26613" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Unable to run xml2rfc --help X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 10:21:55 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---636875520-1654575153-1609237307=:26613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-12-25, at 15:24, Roger Price wrote: >> python3.5 > but this got my attention: Python 3.5 is end-of-life; did you try a newer > Python? I changed the xml2rfc shebang to #!/usr/bin/python3.8 and ran Python 3.8.1 but it made no difference. > I’m out of educated guesses (at least until you are showing more of the traceback), The full Python error message is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/xml2rfc", line 7, in from xml2rfc.run import main File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/__init__.py", line 14, in from xml2rfc.parser import XmlRfcError, CachingResolver, XmlRfcParser, XmlRfc File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/parser.py", line 20, in from xml2rfc.writers import base File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/__init__.py", line 2, in from xml2rfc.writers.base import RfcWriterError File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers/base.py", line 30, in from xml2rfc.util.unicode import ( punctuation, unicode_replacements, unicode_content_tags, bare_unicode_tags, File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/util/unicode.py", line 260, in punctuation_re = re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys()))) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 224, in compile return _compile(pattern, flags) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 293, in _compile p = sre_compile.compile(pattern, flags) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_compile.py", line 536, in compile p = sre_parse.parse(p, flags) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 829, in parse p = _parse_sub(source, pattern, 0) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 437, in _parse_sub itemsappend(_parse(source, state)) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse raise source.error(msg, len(this) + 1 + len(that)) sre_constants.error: bad character range …-‚ at position 3 In file unicode.py at line 260 punctuation_re = re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys()))) I added the two lines import sys print("unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys())) = {}".format(list(punctuation.keys()))) On runs when Python crashes I see outputs: unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) = ['−', '‐', '′', '\u2002', '’', '´', '\u2003', '‚', '–', '\u2009', '”', '-', '“', '‘', '…', '„', '—'] unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) = ['„', '”', '—', '–', '…', '-', '\u2009', '‘', '’', '\u2003', '−', '´', '\u2002', '‚', '′', '‐', '“'] When the runs succeed I see outputs: unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) = ['−', '\u2003', '\u2009', '‘', '“', '‚', '-', '”', '—', '’', '′', '\u2002', '‐', '–', '…', '´', '„'] unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) = ['\u2002', '‐', '′', '\u2003', '−', '´', '“', '”', '„', '–', '-', '‘', '’', '…', '‚', '\u2009', '—'] I do not understand why such a list of constants has to be so random. I'm not sure where to look next, but if you would like to see further traces of other functions, just ask. Roger ---636875520-1654575153-1609237307=:26613-- From nobody Tue Dec 29 07:45:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB38B3A1449 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:45:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EnlUfKDfiO5L for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 542FA3A1447 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 07:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.124] (p548dca87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.202.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D4zJ71jj3zyRB; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:44:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-F4246D4A-FA7C-4F5F-B5FE-DE0D9DDA8F92 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:44:54 +0100 Cc: xml2rfc Mailing List Message-Id: References: To: Roger Price X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18C66) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Unable to run xml2rfc --help X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 15:45:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail-F4246D4A-FA7C-4F5F-B5FE-DE0D9DDA8F92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That appears to be a rather funny bug. Apparently, the ASCII neutral minus hyphen is in the list of keys. Depending= on how the Python hashing random number generator is seeded, that hyphen is= going to a position where it can=E2=80=99t be in the regexp or where it can= . True Heisenbug.=20 (The hyphen needs to be protected to go into a character class, even when th= e resulting character range seems to be syntactically acceptable.) Sent from mobile, sorry for terse > On 29. Dec 2020, at 11:22, Roger Price wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 >>> On 2020-12-25, at 15:24, Roger Price wrote: >>> python3.5 >> but this got my attention: Python 3.5 is end-of-life; did you try a newer= Python? >=20 > I changed the xml2rfc shebang to #!/usr/bin/python3.8 and ran Python 3.8.1= but it made no difference. >=20 >> I=E2=80=99m out of educated guesses (at least until you are showing more o= f the traceback), >=20 > The full Python error message is: >=20 > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/xml2rfc", line 7, in > from xml2rfc.run import main > File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/__init_= _.py", line > 14, in > from xml2rfc.parser import XmlRfcError, CachingResolver, XmlRfcParser,= XmlRfc > File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/parser.= py", > line 20, in from xml2rfc.writers import base > File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers= /__init__.py", > line 2, in from xml2rfc.writers.base import RfcWriterError > File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/writers= /base.py", > line 30, in > from xml2rfc.util.unicode import ( punctuation, unicode_replacements, > unicode_content_tags, bare_unicode_tags, > File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/util/un= icode.py", > line 260, in > punctuation_re =3D re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys()))= ) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 224, in compile > return _compile(pattern, flags) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 293, in _compile > p =3D sre_compile.compile(pattern, flags) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_compile.py", line 536, in compile > p =3D sre_parse.parse(p, flags) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 829, in parse > p =3D _parse_sub(source, pattern, 0) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 437, in _parse_sub > itemsappend(_parse(source, state)) > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 575, in _parse > raise source.error(msg, len(this) + 1 + len(that)) > sre_constants.error: bad character range =E2=80=A6-=E2=80=9A at position 3= >=20 > In file unicode.py at line 260 >=20 > punctuation_re =3D re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys()))) >=20 > I added the two lines >=20 > import sys > print("unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys())) =3D {}".format(list(punctuati= on.keys()))) >=20 > On runs when Python crashes I see outputs: >=20 > unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=88=92', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80= =B2', '\u2002', '=E2=80=99', '=C2=B4', > '\u2003', '=E2=80=9A', '=E2=80=93', '\u2009', '=E2=80=9D',= '-', '=E2=80=9C', '=E2=80=98', '=E2=80=A6', '=E2=80=9E', '=E2=80=94'] > unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=80=9E', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80= =94', '=E2=80=93', '=E2=80=A6', '-', '\u2009', > '=E2=80=98', '=E2=80=99', '\u2003', '=E2=88=92', '=C2=B4',= '\u2002', '=E2=80=9A', '=E2=80=B2', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=9C'] >=20 > When the runs succeed I see outputs: >=20 > unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=88=92', '\u2003', '\u2009',= '=E2=80=98', '=E2=80=9C', '=E2=80=9A', > '-', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80=94', '=E2=80=99', '=E2=80=B2', '= \u2002', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=93', '=E2=80=A6', '=C2=B4', '=E2=80=9E'] > unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys()) =3D ['\u2002', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=B2= ', '\u2003', '=E2=88=92', '=C2=B4', > '=E2=80=9C', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80=9E', '=E2=80=93', '-', '= =E2=80=98', '=E2=80=99', '=E2=80=A6', '=E2=80=9A', '\u2009', '=E2=80=94'] >=20 > I do not understand why such a list of constants has to be so random. I'm n= ot sure where to look next, but if you would like to see further traces of o= ther functions, just ask. Roger_____________________________________________= __ > xml2rfc mailing list > xml2rfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc --Apple-Mail-F4246D4A-FA7C-4F5F-B5FE-DE0D9DDA8F92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That appears to be a rather funny bug.
= Apparently, the ASCII neutral minus hyphen is in the list of keys. Depending= on how the Python hashing random number generator is seeded, that hyphen is= going to a position where it can=E2=80=99t be in the regexp or where it can= . True Heisenbug. 
(The hyphen needs to be protected to go in= to a character class, even when the resulting character range seems to be sy= ntactically acceptable.)

Sent from mobile, sorry for terse

=
On 29. Dec 2020, at 11:22, Roger Price <roger@r= ogerprice.org> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFOn Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Carsten Bormann wrote:=

On 2020-12-25, a= t 15:24, Roger Price <roger@rogerprice.org> wrote:
python3.5
but this got= my attention: Python 3.5 is end-of-life; did you try a newer Python?=

I changed the xml2rfc shebang to #!/= usr/bin/python3.8 and ran Python 3.8.1 but it made no difference.
=
I=E2=80=99m out of educated= guesses (at least until you are showing more of the traceback),
<= /blockquote>
The full Python error message is:<= br>
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/xml2rfc", line 7, in <module>
&= nbsp;  from xml2rfc.run import main
 File "/= mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/__init__.py", lin= e
   14, in <module>
&= nbsp;  from xml2rfc.parser import  XmlRfcError, CachingResolv= er, XmlRfcParser, XmlRfc
 File "/mnt/home/rprice/.loca= l/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/parser.py",
 &nb= sp; line 20, in <module> from xml2rfc.writers import base<= br>  File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xm= l2rfc/writers/__init__.py",
   line 2, in &l= t;module> from xml2rfc.writers.base import RfcWriterError
 File "/mnt/home/rprice/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/wr= iters/base.py",
   line 30, in <module>= ;
   from xml2rfc.util.unicode import ( punc= tuation, unicode_replacements,
   unicode_co= ntent_tags, bare_unicode_tags,
 File "/mnt/home/rprice= /.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/xml2rfc/util/unicode.py",
   line 260, in <module>
 &nbs= p; punctuation_re =3D re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys(= ))))
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 224, in co= mpile
   return _compile(pattern, flags)
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/re.py", line 293, in _compile
   p =3D sre_compile.compile(pattern, flags)<= /span>
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_compile.py", line 536, i= n compile
   p =3D sre_parse.parse(p, flags)=
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 829, in= parse
   p =3D _parse_sub(source, pattern, 0= )
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 437, i= n _parse_sub
   itemsappend(_parse(source, s= tate))
 File "/usr/lib/python3.5/sre_parse.py", line 5= 75, in _parse
   raise source.error(msg, len= (this) + 1 + len(that))
sre_constants.error: bad character r= ange =E2=80=A6-=E2=80=9A at position 3

In f= ile unicode.py at line 260

punctuation_re =3D= re.compile(r'[%s]'%''.join(list(punctuation.keys())))

I added the two lines

import s= ys
print("unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys())) =3D {}".for= mat(list(punctuation.keys())))

On runs when= Python crashes I see outputs:

unicode.py: l= ist(punctuation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=88=92', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=B2', '\u2002'= , '=E2=80=99', '=C2=B4',
     &nbs= p;          '\u2003', '=E2= =80=9A', '=E2=80=93', '\u2009', '=E2=80=9D', '-', '=E2=80=9C', '=E2=80=98', '= =E2=80=A6', '=E2=80=9E', '=E2=80=94']
unicode.py: list(punct= uation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=80=9E', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80=94', '=E2=80=93', '=E2= =80=A6', '-', '\u2009',
      = ;          '=E2=80=98', '=E2= =80=99', '\u2003', '=E2=88=92', '=C2=B4', '\u2002', '=E2=80=9A', '=E2=80=B2'= , '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=9C']

When the runs s= ucceed I see outputs:

unicode.py: list(punc= tuation.keys()) =3D ['=E2=88=92', '\u2003', '\u2009', '=E2=80=98', '=E2=80=9C= ', '=E2=80=9A',
       &= nbsp;        '-', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80= =94', '=E2=80=99', '=E2=80=B2', '\u2002', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=93', '=E2=80=A6= ', '=C2=B4', '=E2=80=9E']
unicode.py: list(punctuation.keys(= )) =3D ['\u2002', '=E2=80=90', '=E2=80=B2', '\u2003', '=E2=88=92', '=C2=B4',=
         &nbs= p;      '=E2=80=9C', '=E2=80=9D', '=E2=80=9E',= '=E2=80=93', '-', '=E2=80=98', '=E2=80=99', '=E2=80=A6', '=E2=80=9A', '\u20= 09', '=E2=80=94']

I do not understand why s= uch a list of constants has to be so random. I'm not sure where to look next= , but if you would like to see further traces of other functions, just ask. R= oger_______________________________________________
xm= l2rfc mailing list
xml2rfc@ietf.org
https://= www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml2rfc
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