From nobody Wed Dec 1 13:54:51 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A50C3A0B91 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAKAP8fNN9Wt for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D60A83A0B8D for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4540A625FC for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:53:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id yJCCNVj2kn1O for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.160.11] (unknown [192.168.160.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 973AC62574 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:53:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:54:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.0 Content-Language: en-US To: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [xml2rfc]
support name field? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: XML2RFC discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 21:54:49 -0000 Can this:
HHIT Format be handled something like:
Obvious not like that cause I get errors when I try it... I did read the FAQ and the RFC and am not seeing how to do this, "nicely". thanks Bob From nobody Wed Dec 1 14:16:04 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8503A0BE6 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:16:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PaC7XI0_7HB8 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC81A3A0BE4 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 14:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p5089a436.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.164.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4J4D1f2t8wz2xQW; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 23:15:50 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 23:15:50 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 660089750.016397-578549dffda8351b41f0803be277e644 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5D48213B-5BC0-46A5-BE9B-EC20F5C06799@tzi.org> References: To: Robert Moskowitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc]
support name field? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: XML2RFC discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 22:16:03 -0000 On 2021-12-01, at 22:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > Can this: >=20 >
> HHIT Format >=20 > be handled something like: >=20 >
That attribute is called =E2=80=9Ctitle=E2=80=9D. (It really should be called caption, as should be the element above, but = that=E2=80=99s water under the bridge.) = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.11.1.html#name-title-attribut= e-5 says: > 2.29.7. "title" Attribute >=20 > Deprecated. Use the element instead. Which raises the question why you don=E2=80=99t like the v3 way of using = Obvious not like that cause I get errors when I try it... >=20 > I did read the FAQ and the RFC and am not seeing how to do this, = "nicely". https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/xml2rfc-doc-3.11.1.html is what you want to read here; RFCs are less useful at this point. 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Here i= s what I tried, but xml2rfc didn't like it: Thanks - Fred From nobody Fri Dec 10 00:23:26 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416B23A0A98 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:23:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.852, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jWP6i1QL5ryQ for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E96453A0A9D for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:23:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1639124594; bh=DI6wOqz0Qh5PaYEPxE4pSSwh/rvptn7noi+cjpb21TE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=hXWrhBgwrSCBn7TcjCeP1+uMAU42l4YunuYI69F4yQvjRBkC6p80BPQuZmndrYqx7 wECyqq4bjaVlQaeHWDGvlpxC6GjepWlnGsvckD4CNyW0qq4wg4oHPhlWjC3UZVXDKP wBGFL6avu+vks08o6Ujkff/nbxWaxtWhlf2H3zso= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.179] ([84.171.153.143]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MNsw4-1nB4hO111U-00OChf for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:23:14 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:23:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.2 To: xml2rfc@ietf.org References: <48bc50ec76484872a7953093b1db81c0@boeing.com> From: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <48bc50ec76484872a7953093b1db81c0@boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:pHVfB3qHvYy+lb8XuWpmEklf4Qsk3CQDd+O2N4Ta1ZmZdlATY2g F9q8ZmKHGG+MyMHN9f8hXYzfSKouPBGMlLqqrOrYmltTerIsBLi39TGIOrYa1MAkpjaQ/k/ W6Cc7rMda4E2HifMNK6aFgBMtIi+sNlqvBTkX3lS8biWxKXE6R0Ts1E7+4k6i53k/5eCzCS OEJEtCz3wkjFvR3tZ5M4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:W9dELCSa0m0=:eus+wVfVZZnm1sqhnGv0Q4 r5Lj5L5D3z3eiyDOkShUlGKDIjQdyp9L1bgUxH4TP/GxUcyYF/Z4YrszYQ0+afF7zoR5MLBhH CHNTIee4AoVE+eMFyqPYuG5apcTw2aRwGDlMVMGiTx135v3RGzQHI/VySMiMApTyz+BYNYBPr jdxpn8EPd2a232fd0A7zeogIl7hfWOzv6wO0PaSazSiuz6YBF45VF6mK8z2bMdNj143bFxp9Z gNVGvphdELt8mjNfd458tBCxCBuD8tKooYeUuoajoAVEDtVfSoiO9/iToIV6lPBOnrISsSbv9 NF9OhNZ7NwHEidVjJniGAEiyexsTij3iYChk/6/fe2rF6VtXKvW7P6QzpW8JvGRUX60NSl3r9 skt8+xUbyvwBKOu6VjdzsEGe6u01DmRZ90Sejb3lC+2t1JcuIecFoMerjnh+7vlh7iErHIzQ/ xFYkbrBV383ovM1AbhF5IyC1sngEP6+TW5FEgfvo5W0ehmBeg9LCjiAycr0CJMyjOxNQ3QPQb o3YE2/1UrI9KaaHbi3kwjynUeTTHH7rdhJajiVzOv/x5rzgWKYbDZu6qoHuZkeDALu//4Bl7C 9AeHvizl6dngDZc6CQBJ/9pPPFcHcDWll6T32WHk8DoB0zvreP0FeqdxGllpwjXYDKeccjEU+ o3UEi37svcOE7cy6AIJ5YvBU4U8N+pgNtVpnEpi3jxON4Nl0C+0T2B4gD/UOGEuxcMAXeNDsg WSXC0myTCsk+te3p/knfhMhhCg5dmvYFpu/rKENOnlHZwrKTRaWPlIXA1OUx196yIaXjrzwOq rjsMomXoy8/yryTlOupdBjYoueVNxaG794usd0otQwz2XvXZNQTh99qtXVnENY6YJqvWCC2wx PPYqEj7NS/t5ZvrNE0WmnaJ8E8EhSUnu30UO3ah+z4f6jKS49V4+WjUce7FaV5GHL9J+E3Ojx U+FduDmu4pxDkUyJ/qq/ixWENdDkcb/7nanAbBBtoro3LFFW5QQ7Alg7gPQu7nGAJ3miJ9j5f OIniwqOVn+7vIVHRQ4nsO/UfBmwrlZBRh87tShkSpZnHesI+X6uffFLCD6IztDqDvRqzs1HrT j7VDW8DmAVFD/I= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Referencing IEN's in xml2rfc? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: XML2RFC discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:23:24 -0000 Am 09.12.2021 um 20:24 schrieb Templin (US), Fred L: > Is it possible to include IEN's in Normative/Informative references? Her= e is > what I tried, but xml2rfc didn't like it: > > > > > > Thanks - Fred Is it possible? Definitively. References and the include mechanism (superseded in V3 by x:include) are generic. What you need to find is an online resource to include from. Best regards, Julian From nobody Fri Dec 10 00:55:05 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xml2rfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0C23A0C8A for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:55:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XC2raodNAL7F for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DADC13A0C5D for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 00:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.217.118] (p5089a436.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.164.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4J9PqL0nd5zDCgl; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:54:54 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <48bc50ec76484872a7953093b1db81c0@boeing.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 09:54:53 +0100 Cc: "xml2rfc@ietf.org" X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 660819293.722351-95db1f958570a54f087a32b1f28a77d5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9A2DD079-EA07-4AF4-B2FC-015BB1D24A44@tzi.org> References: <48bc50ec76484872a7953093b1db81c0@boeing.com> To: "Templin (US), Fred L" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Referencing IEN's in xml2rfc? X-BeenThere: xml2rfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: XML2RFC discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:55:03 -0000 On 2021-12-09, at 20:24, Templin (US), Fred L = wrote: >=20 > Is it possible to include IEN's in Normative/Informative references? I don=E2=80=99t know about normative (I don=E2=80=99t think any IEN is = on the downref list), but informative can of course be done: informative: IEN48: author: - name: Vint Cerf org: DARPA/IPTO date: July 1978 title: > The Catenet Model for Internetworking seriesinfo: Internet Experiment Note: 48 kramdown-rfc generates this bibxml snippet in its informative references = section: The Catenet Model for Internetworking DARPA/IPTO =E2=80=A6and xml2rfc (which ignores the organization info) formats that = into: [IEN48] Cerf, V., "The Catenet Model for Internetworking", Internet Experiment Note 48, July 1978. > Here is > what I tried, but xml2rfc didn't like it: >=20 > > > You don=E2=80=99t need to reference a reference to include that = reference in an RFCXML document. (I=E2=80=99m not aware of a repository = of such bibxml snippets for IENs, so you=E2=80=99ll need to roll your = own as shown above.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten